Recap #cclivechat July 15, 2011. This themed chat was about the case of Elizabeth Short a.k.a. the Black Dahlia. A lot has been written about her case and obviously we cannot cover everything.
We zoomed in on preserved evidence and possibilities for DNA and partial fingerprinting but of course, everything hinges on the availability of the evidence and how it was preserved. As we have seen, many items have been lost. However, maybe that should read “sanitized or cleaned up.”
Do you have questions for Steve Hodel? Then read on:
1: Make sure that you have read either Steve’s book or at least the FAQ section on his website. That page has been split up in categories and sections so first check whether your question can be found there!
2: Questions for Steve have to be submitted via the contact page on DCC with “Black Dahlia” in the subject line. Make sure that you choose the right department e.g. “Vidocq.” Make sure your question is detailed and clearly worded.
3: The deadline for emailing your questions is July 17, 2011. This will enable all of us at DCC to discuss the case in our themed cold case chat on Twitter and any open questions can be added to the questions we send to Steve.
4: Duplicate questions will be morphed into one.
5: Individual replies are not possible so everyone who sends in a question must check back on DCC for answers.
6: I reserve the right to skip any question that is inappropriate, offensive, etc.
7: After July 17, 2011, all the questions will appear in a post on DCC. That post will be send to Steve. As soon as his answers come in, the post will be updated so you have to keep checking back.
I will announce on Twitter when new answers have been posted and my collaborators on DCC will retweet those messages for maximum reach of DCC readers.
A big THANK YOU to Steve for his dedication to finding the truth and for doing this for DCC readers!!!
The verbatim thread is below.
Enjoy, Vidster
| Vidocq_CC | Noon so we start with a themed #cclivechat and focus on the case of the Black Dahlia. Cold to some, solved to others. #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:00:28 +0000 |
| TrickyCase | Signing in for todays #cclivechat Hi Guys! | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:00:36 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | Lots has been written about Elizabeth Short including many character assassinations. #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:01:00 +0000 |
| ColdCaseSquad | @Vidocq_cc @lilaclounge good to see both of u and here is @trickycase good to see u too #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:01:09 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @TrickyCase Richard! Good to see you! #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:01:15 +0000 |
| LilacLounge | @TrickyCase Hi! How's life after #IAS2011? 😉 #CClivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:01:36 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | I have read a few books about ES esp Steve Hodel's books. #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:01:37 +0000 |
| LilacLounge | @Vidocq_CC I've almost finished Steve Hodel's book. His evidence is compelling. #CClivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:02:31 +0000 |
| TrickyCase | @Vidocq_CC sorry for missing out the #cclivechat.. will do better 😉 | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:02:35 +0000 |
| philjjassociate | RT @Vidocq_CC: I have read a few books about ES esp Steve Hodel's books. #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:02:58 +0000 |
| bluedog89 | Greetings all! Excited to discuss the Black Dahlia case. #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:03:00 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | Clip re ES on DCC by Hodel https://www.defrostingcoldcases.com/coldcaselivechatontwitter/beyond-the-black-dahlia-by-steve-hodel #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:03:03 +0000 |
| ColdCaseSquad | @vidocq_cc what did u discover about the Black Dahlia case that piques ur interest? #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:03:06 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @philjjassociate Hi friend! Good to see you here. Thoughts about the BD case? #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:03:26 +0000 |
| ColdCaseSquad | Hi Steph @bluedog89 how r u #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:03:48 +0000 |
| bluedog89 | @LilacLounge I agree, Steve Hodel has a strange, yet compelling story to tell. @Vidocq_CC #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:04:01 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @ColdCaseSquad Alternative explanations for the facts, my mantra! #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:04:10 +0000 |
| TrickyCase | @LilacLounge Its been manic.. just arrived off hols and ready to take son camping in awful weather 🙁 Hows things with u? #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:04:13 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @bluedog89 Hi Steph! #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:04:22 +0000 |
| LilacLounge | Hi @bluedog89! Good to see you 🙂 #CClivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:04:52 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @ColdCaseSquad In the beginning, the cicle of suspects was not widened and related cases were investigated as stand-alones. #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:05:13 +0000 |
| kevinrtipple | RT @Vidocq_CC: Clip re ES on DCC by Hodel https://www.defrostingcoldcases.com/coldcaselivechatontwitter/beyond-the-black-dahlia-by-steve-hodel #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:05:23 +0000 |
| ColdCaseSquad | @Vidocq_CC introduce us to ur friend @Philjjassociate #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:05:31 +0000 |
| bluedog89 | @ColdCaseSquad Excellent! Finishing up classes & hoping to get back to writing *hint, hint* @Vidocq_CC #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:05:32 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @ColdCaseSquad There were indications early on for a possible connection but they were not picked up on or dismissed. #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:05:51 +0000 |
| LilacLounge | @TrickyCase Things are good thanks Richard. Been v busy with some work assignments this week 🙂 #CClivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:05:56 +0000 |
| ColdCaseSquad | Hi @kevinrtipple nice to meet you #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:06:07 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @bluedog89 Catching hint, previously mentioned possibilities in emails to you, right? #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:06:51 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @LilacLounge Glad to hear your business is doing well, Sue! #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:07:12 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @TrickyCase @LilacLounge Camping? Not for me! #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:07:37 +0000 |
| bluedog89 | @Vidocq_CC Absolutely! And @ColdCaseSquad & I have something in the works. 🙂 #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:07:50 +0000 |
| LilacLounge | @Vidocq_CC @bluedog89 oooh... a new guest post? I look forward to that! #CClivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:07:52 +0000 |
| TrickyCase | @F21eForensics #cclivechat is an organised discussion about cold cases using experts and amateur sleuths.. feel free to join in 😉 | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:08:22 +0000 |
| LilacLounge | @Vidocq_CC Thanks V! I might blog about it. Chat about that later? 😉 #CClivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:08:49 +0000 |
| bluedog89 | So back to BD - where to begin? #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:09:07 +0000 |
| LilacLounge | RT @TrickyCase: #cclivechat is an organised discussion about cold cases using experts and amateur sleuths...feel free to join in #CClivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:09:51 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | tweetchat not working right for me, cannot reply #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:10:43 +0000 |
| ColdCaseSquad | @vidocq_cc what connect(s) specifically are you referring to #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:10:56 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | Gonna have to switch to tweetdeck, back in a few #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:11:24 +0000 |
| TrickyCase | @F21eForensics Its all using Twitter... using the #cclivechat you can follow the discussion... we are talking about the Black Dahlia case | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:11:42 +0000 |
| LilacLounge | @bluedog89 Well I'll jump in with forensic evidence. Slim pickings possibly, but some trace evidence - potential DNA from hairs? #CClivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:11:49 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @LilacLounge yes, we'll discuss that later, Sue. Email me? #cclivechat #CClivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:12:44 +0000 |
| LilacLounge | @TrickyCase what would be the chance of fingerprints from her purse and shoes after all this time? #CClivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:12:48 +0000 |
| ColdCaseSquad | What's the chance that the evidence was properly packaged back then. It was probably in plastic, so DNA maybe a moot point #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:13:52 +0000 |
| TrickyCase | @LilacLounge @bluedog89 Nothing really from fingerprints.. and it seems scene was a deposition site it may not av revealed much #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:14:01 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @ColdCaseSquad White handkerchiefs, dark cabriolets, slanted eyes seen by witnesses, etc. #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:14:27 +0000 |
| LilacLounge | @TrickyCase Agree. Also the problem remains that many of the exhibits have disappeared... #CClivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:15:22 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @LilacLounge I'd love to read the autopsy report re clear bisection cuts. The skill is exceptional, not your average killer. #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:15:39 +0000 |
| TrickyCase | @ColdCaseSquad #cclivechat Lots of UK DNA cases from same era have been successful.. not sure about US packaging and exhibit storage | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:15:40 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @LilacLounge @TrickyCase Very disturbing although some tapes seem to have survived with George Hodel's voice on it. #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:16:16 +0000 |
| ColdCaseSquad | I agree @trickycase - but where the body is found becomes the primary crime scene in homicide cases-especially in dump jobs #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:16:25 +0000 |
| bluedog89 | What about COD? #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:16:59 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @ColdCaseSquad But she was bisected elsewhere, poss Franklin House, would love to search that basement w/fine tooth comb! #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:17:26 +0000 |
| bluedog89 | @ColdCaseSquad I love it when you talk cop. 😉 @trickycase #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:17:38 +0000 |
| TrickyCase | @ColdCaseSquad You are absolutely right... but a dumping of the body can be done in a more methodical, forensically aware manner #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:18:08 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @bluedog89 @ColdCaseSquad @trickycase Focus, Steph, focus! LOL, just kidding! #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:18:30 +0000 |
| LilacLounge | @Vidocq_CC Yes, anecdotal evidence of blood stained bedding, so maybe chance of traces of blood remaining in the basement... #CClivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:18:52 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @TrickyCase @ColdCaseSquad Correct so I wonder about his cars, were they ever subjected to tests? #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:19:00 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | What bugs me is the four ex-wives: nobody knew anything? #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:19:25 +0000 |
| F21eForensics | Excuse b=my ignorance but is there some background reading for a quick summary of the case? #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:19:30 +0000 |
| bluedog89 | @Vidocq_CC Re: Bisection - any definitive method? I've read of butcher knife, but could be saw? Relevance? @ColdCaseSquad #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:19:56 +0000 |
| ColdCaseSquad | I would surmise that the cars where dusted for prints but LE had no idea of DNA back then-no fault of their own #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:19:58 +0000 |
| LilacLounge | @TrickyCase @ColdCaseSquad I wonder how forensically aware folks were back in the '40s though? #CClivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:20:14 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @F21eForensics https://www.defrostingcoldcases.com/forensics/ask-steve-hodel and google her, lots pops up! #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:20:17 +0000 |
| iowa_card | @Vidocq_CC @bluedog89 @ColdCaseSquad @trickycase i really like the Robert Curis special about BD #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:20:22 +0000 |
| bluedog89 | @F21eForensics http://www.bethshort.com/home.php #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:20:23 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @bluedog89 @Vidocq_CC @ColdCaseSquad Bisection done w/scalpel #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:20:39 +0000 |
| ColdCaseSquad | Welcome @F21eForensics no bother at all welcome we will provide the links #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:20:52 +0000 |
| iowa_card | @Vidocq_CC a real shame the LAPD "misplaced" the files #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:21:10 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @bluedog89 @Vidocq_CC @ColdCaseSquad Saw would damage bones, bones and vertebrea were clean cut, no rough edges as saw would do #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:21:19 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @iowa_card Yes, misplaced and clean and edited! #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:21:49 +0000 |
| bluedog89 | @F21eForensics http://www.stevehodel.com/evidenceroom/?m=201001 #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:22:04 +0000 |
| ColdCaseSquad | Welcome @Iowa_card #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:22:45 +0000 |
| F21eForensics | Thanks all #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:23:26 +0000 |
| bluedog89 | @iowa_card You think that has to do w/George Hodel's connections? @Vidocq_CC #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:23:40 +0000 |
| LilacLounge | @Vidocq_CC @bluedog89 @ColdCaseSquad agree scalpel/other surgical instruments likely,to which GH would certainly have had access #CClivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:23:49 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @iowa_card What bothers me too, David, is that subsequent cops were given sanitized files to work with, set them up for doom. #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:24:08 +0000 |
| bluedog89 | @Iowa_card Aloha! Great to see you here! #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:24:08 +0000 |
| ColdCaseSquad | @iowa_card cases often get destroyed or lost for various reasons #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:24:12 +0000 |
| bluedog89 | @ColdCaseSquad Agreed, but considering LAPD's rep for corruption... @iowa_card #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:25:03 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @ColdCaseSquad This file was lost for a reason. Read about Chief Thad Brown? #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:25:12 +0000 |
| iowa_card | @Vidocq_CC @ColdCaseSquad it was rather insidious, treatment of this case..... #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:25:18 +0000 |
| LilacLounge | @ColdCaseSquad @iowa_card I'm really interested in LAPD's response to Steve Hodel's book now. Haven't quite reached the end yet. #CClivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:25:56 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | There was another bisection murder in the Phillipines were George Hodel lived after he fled Hawaii. Coincidence? #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:26:02 +0000 |
| bluedog89 | @LilacLounge Good point. Leads me to believe Hodel was involved. @Vidocq_CC @bluedog89 @ColdCaseSquad #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:26:05 +0000 |
| bluedog89 | @LilacLounge Did you see the TV special? Not positive unfortunately. @ColdCaseSquad @iowa_card #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:26:48 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @bluedog89 @LilacLounge @Vidocq_CC @ColdCaseSquad Other issue: ring of protection inside LA re abortion doctors. #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:27:02 +0000 |
| bluedog89 | @Vidocq_CC Interesting. Had no idea. Did you notice the similarities to the Jack the Ripper murders? #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:27:32 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @bluedog89 @Vidocq_CC And some claim George Hodel was the Zodiac killer! #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:28:05 +0000 |
| LilacLounge | @bluedog89 No I didn't catch the TV special. is there anywhere I can track it down? #CClivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:28:05 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | New followers, the stream coming in is from #cclivechat, a weekly returning event in which we discuss cold cases w/a team. | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:28:57 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | #cclivechat is on summer schedule till Sept 2. | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:29:19 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | For information on the summer dates, scroll down here: https://www.defrostingcoldcases.com/ #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:29:57 +0000 |
| bluedog89 | @Vidocq_CC LOL! Not really his MO, but @ColdCaseSquad would have to speak to that as I'm only a novice. #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:29:58 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @bluedog89 @Vidocq_CC @ColdCaseSquad So back to those exwives: what would they be thinking now? #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:31:00 +0000 |
| ColdCaseSquad | I would agree with @bluedog Modus Operandi (MO) must be considered when discussing different #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:31:16 +0000 |
| bluedog89 | @LilacLounge It was on Dateline NBC I think. Convinced me of George Hodel's involvement. #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:31:18 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | If you have questions for Steve Hodel, use DCC's contact page https://www.defrostingcoldcases.com/contact All Qs will be posted. #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:32:28 +0000 |
| bluedog89 | @Vidocq_CC Why not come forward? Money? What about the alleged sexual abuse of the daughter & friends? @ColdCaseSquad #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:32:32 +0000 |
| LilacLounge | @bluedog89 Thanks. I'll investigate later how / if I can get hold of that in the UK. #CClivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:32:37 +0000 |
| bluedog89 | @Vidocq_CC Really wish he could have participated! #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:33:20 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @bluedog89 Steve Hodel is not on Twitter but he is willing to answer all our questions. #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:34:10 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @trickycase what did you think of the case? #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:34:33 +0000 |
| bluedog89 | @Vidocq_CC Possible the Exes were abused? Maybe why they never came forward? @ColdCaseSquad #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:35:03 +0000 |
| LilacLounge | RT @Vidocq_CC: If you have questions for Steve Hodel, use DCCs contact page https://www.defrostingcoldcases.com/contact #CClivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:36:13 +0000 |
| LilacLounge | @bluedog89 @Vidocq_CC @ColdCaseSquad I have an interesting article about the psychology of abused partners. Will find a link... #CClivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:37:00 +0000 |
| ColdCaseSquad | RT @LilacLounge: RT @Vidocq_CC: If you have questions for Steve Hodel, use DCCs page https://www.defrostingcoldcases.com/contact #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:37:03 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | Did anyone find more forensic evidence other than what Steve Hodel presents in the Black Dahlia Avenger? #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:39:46 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | Did the handwriting comparisson convince you that the notes were written by George Hodel? #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:40:13 +0000 |
| LilacLounge | @bluedog89 This article by psychologist Zoe Lodrick might have some answers re behaviour of abused partners http://bit.ly/oH8Rje #CClivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:40:20 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | Did you find any more information about cases where white handkerchiefs were left near the victims? #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:40:48 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | Is there any information about remodelling in or around the Franklin House? #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:41:24 +0000 |
| LilacLounge | @Vidocq_CC I'm afraid I didn't find any other forensic info. Agree that handwriting would be worth further analysis though. #CClivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:42:39 +0000 |
| ColdCaseSquad | Is there a handwriting expert on Twitter that can put their opinion in? #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:43:20 +0000 |
| bluedog89 | @LilacLounge TY. This is an area that I'm interested in esp. as it relates to offender/victim relationships. #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:43:25 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | Anyone find more information about the cigarette burns on Elizabeth's back? #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:43:39 +0000 |
| LilacLounge | @bluedog89 I heard ZL speak at a conference. If you have chance to hear her, do! Fascinating insights into victim behaviour. #CClivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:45:06 +0000 |
| LilacLounge | @ColdCaseSquad @Vidocq_CC Be very interested to hear the opinion of other handwriting experts. Not entirely convinced so far... #CClivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:47:23 +0000 |
| bluedog89 | @Vidocq_CC No, but what would this say to a cop? Was the killer simply a sadist? Or was she being punished? #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:48:43 +0000 |
| LilacLounge | Re the handwriting comparisons: especially skeptical re comp to writing on Jeanne French's body, but remain open minded. #CClivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:48:51 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @LilacLounge @ColdCaseSquad Now focus on what was written and not how or who. Convincing profile? #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:49:00 +0000 |
| ColdCaseSquad | @Vidocq_CC were they determined to be post mortem or ante mortem? #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:49:05 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @bluedog89 Turture before death points to sadist! #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:49:25 +0000 |
| LilacLounge | @Vidocq_CC @bluedog89 And it certainly seems that GH had some interest in sadism. #CClivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:50:55 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @LilacLounge @Vidocq_CC @bluedog89 Yes, state of mind possibly gearing up for actual bisection. #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:52:48 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | Do you believe posing of ES was homage to Man Ray's art? #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:53:12 +0000 |
| bluedog89 | @Vidocq_CC I read that it wasn't possible as that particle image was not circulated. But who knows... #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:54:18 +0000 |
| ColdCaseSquad | stranger things have happened #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:54:57 +0000 |
| bluedog89 | @bluedog89 Oops, I meant "particular" not particle. #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:54:58 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | Almost 1pm, folks. If you have Qs, use DCC's contact page. Next #cclivechat 8/5 re Suzy Lamplugh, 9/2 will be for planning. #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:55:00 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @bluedog89 Which image not circulated? #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:55:32 +0000 |
| POLICEINFLA | RT @ColdCaseSquad: Is there a handwriting expert on Twitter that can put their opinion in? #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:56:15 +0000 |
| ColdCaseSquad | RT @Vidocq_CC: Almost 1pm, folks. If you have Qs, use DCCs contact page. Next #cclivechat 8/5 re Suzy Lamplugh #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:56:34 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @POLICEINFLA Thanks for the RT? Do you know the case? #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:56:45 +0000 |
| LilacLounge | @Vidocq_CC was most compelled by that theory. Posing of ES and other possibly connected victims almost certainly deliberate. #CClivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:56:51 +0000 |
| LilacLounge | RT @Vidocq_CC: If you have Qs, use DCCs contact page. Next #cclivechat 8/5 re Suzy Lamplugh, 9/2 will be for planning. #CClivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:57:41 +0000 |
| bluedog89 | @Vidocq_CC Minotaure, which is supposed to be what Hodel used as a model for posing ES. Man Ray & Hodel were friends, yes? #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:57:48 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | @bluedog89 Yes, they were friends. Check Steve Hodel's book for those pictures. Or, google them. #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:59:18 +0000 |
| bluedog89 | @Vidocq_CC The Minotaure image wasn't widely circulated, so of course it's possible Hodel or anyone else used it. #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 17:00:05 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | Crime scene pics: warning! Graphic!!! http://207.56.179.67/steve_hodel/2009/08/black-dahlia-crime-scene-inspi.html #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 17:00:30 +0000 |
| ColdCaseSquad | RT @Vidocq_CC: Crime scene pics warning! Graphic!!! http://207.56.179.67/steve_hodel/2009/08/black-dahlia-crime-scene-inspi.html #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 17:01:31 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | 1pm, folks. Pls try to answers the Qs posted here or, send them in to ask Steve. #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 17:02:18 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | Next chat: Suzy Lamplugh! If you knew her, please join us August 5 noon-1pm EST! #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 17:03:07 +0000 |
| ColdCaseSquad | bye all welcome new comers! #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 17:03:33 +0000 |
| bluedog89 | @Vidocq_CC Thanks all for an enlightening chat! Til next time! #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 17:03:42 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | Recap later on DCC, post w/Qs for Steve will be posted later this month. #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 17:03:49 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | To see what Steve answers, check back on DCC after the summer! #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 17:04:15 +0000 |
| LilacLounge | Thanks everyone for another great chat! Time to dash off. @Vidocq_CC I'll try to post some Qs for SH over the weekend 🙂 #CClivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 17:04:16 +0000 |
| Vidocq_CC | Vidster is signing off! See you next time! #cclivechat | Fri, 15 Jul 2011 17:05:50 +0000 |
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