Recap #cclivechat March 25, 2011

A roller coaster that went on for 90 minutes if we had not been called back to our daily duties!

We started of with my request for help. There are cases were I could use help researching a cold case, post an introduction to the case, and then keep the case up to date. I am getting help from @oceanbluepress, @Katcop13 and @lilaclounge now in the cases of Ryan Eugene Guitron, Christine Prince,  “the lady in the barrel,” Tracy Allen & Patty Vaughan, Alice Barton, and Elizabeth Heath. I also mentioned that I could use in the cases of Richard Burchfield and Stephen Miera.

On Twitter, @coldcasesquad got in touch with @selphie_nic whose mother, Brenda Martinez, disappeared and was later found dead in 1980. “Brenda Martinez was only 23 when she disappeared from her Flint home just before Christmas that year. Police said then that she went to use a pay phone at Fenton and West Atherton roads and did not return. Her snow-covered, frozen body was found near Tobaggan Hill in Holloway Reservoir Regional Park on Jan. 5, 1989. Police did not disclose a cause of death but said it was a homicide. Martinez, who also used her maiden name of Harvey, disappeared on Dec. 22, 1988 after she said she was going to use a pay phone at Fenton and West Atherton roads in Flint. No one was charged in Martinez’s slaying.” We hope that Stephanie will tweet more about her mother’s case!

The discussions were about the above mentioned cases and especially what can still be submitted for testing if it has been buried underground for a long time? Also, what building materials can be tested years later for manufacturer to try and establish a time line. Stephanie brought the Google Earth maps to out attention with the help of Tom who provided all the links. This is a real “big brother is watching you” but the crime solving part is really neat!

Joe brought up the Gilgo Beach Murders. He pointed us to his post and to articles. He got into an interesting discussion with @oceanbluepress about the feet and in which direction the feet of the women were pointing. Clearly, the hint was religious practices either due to the killer’s religion or, because he read about it and tries to fool police by mimicking a religious ritual.

Good news is that next week @trickycase, a fingerprint expert, will join the conversation!

The thread is below! Thanks for participating: @lilaclounge, @bluedog89, @katcop13, @TRLeVeque, @oceanbluepress, @forensicpathdoc, and @coldcasesquad. Thanks for the RTs @dedekeene and @mariejoseGMH.

Enjoy, Vidster

Vidocq_CCWelcome all to another round of cold case live chat! #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:00:19
ColdCaseSquadGood afternoon friends of the #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:00:38
Vidocq_CCWe have some scientists here, a former cop, a cop who is still a cop, some writers and other good folks willing to help. #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:01:07
Vidocq_CC@ColdCaseSquad Hi partner! #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:01:20
oceanbluepressHi all! #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:01:24
LilacLoungeGood afternoon @ColdCaseSquad #CClivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:01:24
ColdCaseSquadI had a great time talking with @NYSinc last night-serious writers and great people #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:01:34
bluedog89Hola! #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:01:56
Vidocq_CCI am going to throw this one out immediately: could use help w/some cases. Lemme know if you are willing to do online research. #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:02:08
Vidocq_CC@LilacLounge Welcome Sue and Stephanie! #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:02:27
ColdCaseSquadHi Sue @LilacLounge @Vidocq_qq @oceanbluepress @bluedog89 #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:02:40
Vidocq_CC@ColdCaseSquad @NYSinc Blog about it later? #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:02:56
bluedog89@Vidocq_CC What do you need re: research? #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:03:04
ColdCaseSquad@Vidocq_CC which case(s) do you need help with my friend #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:03:06
LilacLoungeHi @oceanblupress & @bluedog89 #CClivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:03:24
ColdCaseSquadHas anyone looked into the murder of @selphie_nic mother? #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:04:00
Vidocq_CCRichard Burchfield #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:04:01
LilacLounge@Vidocq_CC willing to help too yes! #CClivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:04:05
katcop13The @NYSinC meeting was great last nite, thx to @coldcasesquad. Thanks again, Joe! #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:04:11
Vidocq_CCStephen Miera #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:04:26
Vidocq_CCAlice Barton #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:04:48
ColdCaseSquadHi @katcop13 @Vidocq_CC is all business today #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:05:03
Vidocq_CCposting the cases where I could use help #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:05:05
Vidocq_CCElizabeth Heath #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:05:40
oceanbluepress@ColdCaseSquad @Vidocq_CC *cracking knuckles as we tweet #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:06:03
ColdCaseSquadWhat are some of the methods do you guys use for research? Anyone still go2 the building with books? #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:06:13
Vidocq_CC@ColdCaseSquad @selphie_nic Read one article but definitely on the list...that list is getting really long! #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:06:28
bluedog89@Vidocq_CC I am available to help w/your cases w/research, etc. #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:06:38
Vidocq_CC@katcop13 Hi Kathleen! #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:06:54
Vidocq_CC@bluedog89 Need the cold case bloggers overview first #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:07:14
Vidocq_CC@oceanbluepress Hello! #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:07:32
TRLeVequeGood morning #cclivechat @ArcadiaPD TomFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:07:42
ColdCaseSquad@Vidocq_CC has issued homework! Lets try to find some info and persons to interview-I prefer to research with those involved #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:07:59
bluedog89@Vidocq_CC No prob. #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:08:10
Vidocq_CC@ColdCaseSquad Research: online papers, chatrooms, blogs, etc. Library fiches, email w/ppl involved and if they want, the cops #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:08:11
katcop13I can blog about @selphie_nic's case on From Cop to Mom. I just started following her on Twitter. #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:08:12
Vidocq_CC@TRLeVeque @ArcadiaPD Morning Tom, glad to see you! #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:08:37
ColdCaseSquadHi Tom @TRLeVeque early for you eh? #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:08:37
Vidocq_CC@katcop13 ok, email Joe and me the text so we can post as well for max exposure #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:09:17
ColdCaseSquadMaybe we can get @selphie_nic to join us and/or speak with one of us #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:09:22
TRLeVeque@ColdCaseSquad All good! Kids and dogs up early! #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:10:08
ColdCaseSquadAs usual, I'll have some tough questions-no beating around the bush-get right down to it #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:10:11
Vidocq_CC@ColdCaseSquad I do too but some of these cases are in the UK or across the USA #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:10:24
katcop13Will's all about promoting awareness, getting the info out there, hoping to reach the person w info... #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:10:32
Vidocq_CC@katcop13 Exactly, and with 3 well read blogs we should get more exposure than with only a few tweets! #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:11:19
LilacLounge@Vidocq_CC @ColdCaseSquad willing to do what I can to help with research at the UK end of things... #CClivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:11:30
katcop13@coldcasesquad I do go to the library to go thru microfilms. It's great how some are being archived online, though; saves a trip #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:12:08
ColdCaseSquadGreat Sue, anyone see @deaddollmovie and the Girl Scout murders? #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:12:18
Vidocq_CC@LilacLounge Than the case of Alice Barton might be easier for you #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:12:37
ColdCaseSquadWe have lots of friends in the #UK-I hope they can help #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:13:33
Vidocq_CC@ColdCaseSquad @deaddollmovie Been reading up on it but need more information, reports, etc and of course, I need @deaddollmovie #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:13:34
katcop13Not familiar w @deaddollmovie, but I just started following now to know more #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:14:25
Vidocq_CC@ColdCaseSquad They are, thanks to Simon from Disklabs I have been able to connect the cops w/UK firm for video enhancing #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:14:27
oceanbluepressjust read the post about Elizabeth Heath homicide - what's missing? prob the husband did it? *jumping to conclusions #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:16:01
katcop13Join in live chat re: Cold Cases 'til 1 pm ET #cclivechat #police #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:16:01
Vidocq_CCAnyone know whether the "lady in the barrel" has been identified? #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:16:23
ColdCaseSquad@oceanbluepress giggling #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:16:46
Vidocq_CC@oceanbluepress Complete autopsy, murder weapon, motive (can guess at that), hubby not arrested so what is the case status? #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:17:10
Vidocq_CCWhere is @C_PDMS?
Fri, 25 Mar 2011 16:18:04
ColdCaseSquadRT @katcop13: Join in live chat re: Cold Cases til 1 pm ET #police #writers #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:18:12
LilacLounge@Vidocq_CC had a quick read of the Alice Barton case. In NW UK too - that's my patch! We can chat later about how I can help. #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:19:32
oceanbluepress@Vidocq_CC @ColdCaseSquad was the reno job done by professional or handyman husband? *clue #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:20:05
Vidocq_CC@LilacLounge Fantastic, will put your name behind her case. Wld like to know whether kids have been interviewed again as adults #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:20:22
ColdCaseSquad@policeone join the Cold Case Live chat going on right now #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:20:37
Vidocq_CC@LilacLounge and whether anything has been submitted for scietific testing! #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:20:42
Vidocq_CC@oceanbluepress By new owner of the house re Heath #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:21:05
LilacLounge@Vidocq_CC case was 1955... I'm not sure what will be left now, but will see what I can find out. #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:22:05
Vidocq_CCAnyway, Stephanie found some interesting articles about the use of Google maps in crime detection, right? #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:22:12
Vidocq_CC@LilacLounge Thanks, we'll email about the barton case later, ok? Thanks for helping! #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:22:57
bluedog89Google Earth Street View Cam used to catch criminals. #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:23:22
oceanbluepress@Vidocq_CC I meant they can tell if original patchwork when she was stuffed in there was pro or not would be fingerprints #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:24:02
bluedog89The discussion of the Novak case last week got me on this Google Earth kick. #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:24:31
TRLeVequeRT @bluedog89: Google Earth Street View Cam used to catch criminals. #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:24:52
Vidocq_CC@oceanbluepress Have not read anything about that but with digging, we might be able to find it. #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:25:12
oceanbluepress@Vidocq_CC when ppl do renos they touch a lot of things that are buried right so if they poked around basement more #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:25:48
Vidocq_CC@TRLeVeque Thanks for the links, Tom! #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:25:49
LilacLounge@bluedog89 that's really interesting stuff. I'd no idea Google had all this info. Thanks for the links. #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:26:01
TRLeVeque@Vidocq_CC Sorry...kind of sitting on the sidelines today...better half home too. #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:26:58
LilacLounge@bluedog89 pictures of the children pointing firearms are particularly shocking... #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:27:24
oceanbluepress@TRLeVeque thanks for the links #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:27:26
Vidocq_CC@TRLeVeque No problem! #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:27:41
Vidocq_CC@LilacLounge Agreed, love the pool story as well! Re google earth #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:28:22
ColdCaseSquadA great tool to find people is #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:28:40
LilacLoungeAre Google actively pursuing these images for CJS purposes or are they waiting to be approached, do we know? #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:29:42
Vidocq_CC@ColdCaseSquad Thanks for the tip re pipl #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:30:55
bluedog89@LilacLounge Google Earth allows you 2 see anything anywhere, but it does have programs 4 specific groups, educators, biz, media #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:32:13
Vidocq_CC@PennStateCSI Join the discussion #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:32:16
ColdCaseSquad@katcop13 are you still with us?
Fri, 25 Mar 2011 16:32:18
katcop13Still here... #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:32:44
oceanbluepress@LilacLounge is it possible to find fingerprints on old building materials like Elizabeth Heath case? #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:32:59
ColdCaseSquadAnything with the Gilgo Beach murders? Maybe we should poke our noses around #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:33:35
katcop13I'm not familiar with the Heath or Barton case, but will do some reading on them... #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:33:40
bluedog89@LilacLounge And the use of Google Earth in criminal cases could become a violation of privacy issue. #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:33:58
oceanbluepress@ColdCaseSquad do you have a link to the Gilgo Beach? #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:34:21
LilacLounge@oceanbluepress f'prints are not my area, but from my limited knowledge, I'd say it would depend on the state of the surface. #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:34:21
Vidocq_CC@ColdCaseSquad Does not ring a bell, link? #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:34:40
ColdCaseSquadI'm playing catch up to, @Vidocq_cc is a human dynamo and just turns these posts out! #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:34:48
Vidocq_CC@LilacLounge @oceanbluepress I guess you face the issues there they had id-ing the soldier of frommelles #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:35:21
katcop13SCPD has a request for tips for Gilgo beach on their page: #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:35:31
Vidocq_CCSoldiers of Fromelles #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:36:05
bluedog89@Vidocq_CC @TRLeVeque Thanks for RTing the Google Earth links Tom! The more we share this info w/the public, the better. #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:36:07
Vidocq_CC@katcop13 cool, but the case info link? #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:37:04
oceanbluepress@Vidocq_CC @LilacLounge what about dating some building materials? mfg names come and go.. #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:37:34
ColdCaseSquad@oceanbluepress info Gilgo murders and #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:37:48
Vidocq_CCGot it: #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:37:49
katcop13There isn't any "official" link ~ just what the media has done #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:39:45
TRLeVeque@bluedog89 You bet Stephanie...great resource, but also good for all to be aware of how exposed we are! #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:40:05
Vidocq_CC@oceanbluepress @LilacLounge I'd want to know who else could have had a motive to kill Elizabeth Heath? #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:40:12
Vidocq_CC@TRLeVeque @bluedog89 A true "big brother is watching us." re google earth! #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:41:09
bluedog89@TRLeVeque Big Brother's watchin ya! #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:41:18
ColdCaseSquadInvestigators must establish MOM: Means Opportunity and Motive in order to have a suspect #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:41:46
Vidocq_CC@TRLeVeque If you PD needs exposure in some cases, email them to us! This counts for all PDs by the way! I know you're watching! #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:42:09
LilacLounge@oceanbluepress again, totally out of my area , but a really good point. I wonder how accurate materials dating techniques are? #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:42:20
LilacLounge@oceanbluepress I'll ask some questions re building materials and see what I can find out for next week. #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:43:31
katcop13Still time to join the live Cold Case chat #police #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:43:46
oceanbluepress@ColdCaseSquad thanks for the link - what about org crime? or were they operating all independently? #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:44:03
ColdCaseSquadAnyone now of a medical examiner on Twitter that would like to join us on the #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:44:29
ColdCaseSquad@oceanbluepress at the moment it looks as if it is the same guy-must live in that area, very secluded @Katcop13 will confirm #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:45:21
Vidocq_CC@ColdCaseSquad Got one on email but he was tied up this week! #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:45:22
Vidocq_CCRT @ColdCaseSquad: Anyone now of a medical examiner on Twitter that would like to join us on the #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:45:31
oceanbluepress@ColdCaseSquad in Cda bikers mostly run all escorts/sex trade business #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:46:09
LilacLounge@ColdCaseSquad maybe @forensicpathdoc might like to join us... #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:46:14
forensicpathdoc@Vidocq_CC @ColdCaseSquad #cclivechat Sure! beats editing this stupid book!Fri, 25 Mar 2011 16:47:06
ColdCaseSquad@LilacLounge I have tried to get @forensicpathdoc but he is very busy #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:47:06
TRLeVequeRT @Vidocq_CC: RT @ColdCaseSquad: Anyone now of a medical examiner on Twitter that would like to join us on the #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:47:09
katcop13SCPD believes it is the same guy responsible for the Gilgo Beach victims & most likely has intimate knowledge of the area #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:47:51
forensicpathdoc#cclivechat what's up everyone?Fri, 25 Mar 2011 16:48:00
Vidocq_CC@forensicpathdoc @lilaclounge: we need help! Building materials, finding finger prints on 1955 buried body, etc! #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:48:02
oceanbluepress@ColdCaseSquad what about craigslist? would know ip addresses of who responded to ads? #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:48:08
LilacLounge@forensicpathdoc Welcome Peter! #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:48:22
ColdCaseSquadAsk and the doctor shall appear welcome @forensicpathdoc #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:48:26
ColdCaseSquad@oceanpressblue yes, but these cases were years apart, & then all dumped at the same time #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:49:01
Vidocq_CC@LilacLounge @forensicpathdoc Case Elizabeth Heath #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:49:12
LilacLounge@Vidocq_CC @forensicpathdoc this might be one I update you on next week. Have a list of questions to ask my f'print colleagues #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:49:26
Vidocq_CC@ColdCaseSquad @oceanpressblue so were the bodies stored somewhere? #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:49:51
ColdCaseSquadThe police are not saying the condition the bodies were left in or how they died #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:50:30
Vidocq_CC@LilacLounge @forensicpathdoc Excellent, also about chances of finding DNA in Barton case! #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:50:40
Vidocq_CC@forensicpathdoc Thanks for jumping into the deep end! #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:51:02
forensicpathdocReading about the Elizabeth Heath case now...
Fri, 25 Mar 2011 16:51:34
Vidocq_CC@forensicpathdoc thanks #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:52:16
ColdCaseSquadMaybe @JoeKrebs4 would like to join us on the #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:52:30
Vidocq_CCShould we extend with 30 min or cut off at 1pm? #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:52:54
Vidocq_CC@ColdCaseSquad @JoeKrebs4 I don't think he is online.... #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:53:43
LilacLoungeMaybe we could get some fingerprint experts to join us next week too? @TrickyCase free next Friday? #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:54:08
oceanbluepress@Vidocq_CC sure another 30 mins is fine with me #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:54:39
ColdCaseSquad@Vidocq_CC I can stay
Fri, 25 Mar 2011 16:55:37
oceanbluepress@ColdCaseSquad thanks for that #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:55:42
LilacLounge@Vidocq_CC Fine by me. Shame to stop just when things are getting really interesting! #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:55:52
forensicpathdocInteresting case! You'd be amazed at the things people find when they remodel! I see bones found like this all the time. #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:55:58
forensicpathdocBut usually the bones are animal! #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:56:22
Vidocq_CC@LilacLounge Have sent him a DM #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:56:46
Vidocq_CC@forensicpathdoc But we have a full skeleton here, no murder weapon, motive (one we can guess, but there might be more), etc #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:57:39
Vidocq_CC@forensicpathdoc You might also be interested in "the lady in the Barrel" #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:58:13
Vidocq_CCI can stay till 130pm but recap will be posted early evening. #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:58:53
katcop13We're still chatting about cold cases ~ come join the conversation #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:59:01
oceanbluepress@ColdCaseSquad if all the bodies were pointing east could that be a religious clue? #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:59:46
Vidocq_CCRT @katcop13: Were still chatting about cold cases ~ come join the conversation #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 16:59:49
ColdCaseSquadWe have Doctors, Lawyers, Cops, Authors chatting about criminal investigations, don't be shy #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 17:00:13
oceanbluepress@ColdCaseSquad certain religions (middle eastern) they take their shoes off and face east when praying #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 17:00:52
ColdCaseSquad@oceanbluepress and your theory? #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 17:01:34
forensicpathdocthe body in the barrel is interesting. Any more recent update on it? #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 17:02:34
oceanbluepress@ColdCaseSquad could it be that whoever placed them there face down with shoes off is of that religion *possibility #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 17:03:30
Vidocq_CC@forensicpathdoc No, hence my request for help w/researching+updating some cases. Will have full recap of chat on my blog later. #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 17:03:34
Vidocq_CC@forensicpathdoc I have tons of cases but need help updating some #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 17:04:00
ColdCaseSquad@oceanbluepress I never thought of it, but interesting insight- they could have lost their shoes when dragged to the dump site #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 17:04:36
oceanbluepress@Vidocq_CC @forensicpathdoc too many criminals out there! #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 17:04:45
katcop13We had a body in a barrel on LI. New owner removed it; contained a pregnant corpse that prev. married homeowner had affair with #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 17:05:10
katcop13shortly after cops spoke with him, he killed himself. #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 17:06:00
oceanbluepress@ColdCaseSquad but all facing east with shoes and socks off got my attention, if dragged around would've lost more clothes #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 17:06:01
Vidocq_CC@katcop13 Interesting story, but at least she was ID-ed. This one I mentioned is still unknown as far as I know. #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 17:07:44
ColdCaseSquad@oceanbluepress great point-leave a comment on my post, maybe we can get some discussion about that #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 17:07:47
oceanbluepress@ColdCaseSquad sure, will do #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 17:08:26
katcop13Here's a NY Times article on body in barrel case from '69, discovered in '99 #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 17:09:06
ColdCaseSquad@oceanbluepress are you far from Montreal? #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 17:09:11
oceanbluepress@ColdCaseSquad no - I'm on the west coast #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 17:09:55
katcop13She was a missing person for 30 years... #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 17:09:59
Vidocq_CC@trickycase will join us next week. His tweets will be representing himself and The Fingerprint Society, but not the NPIA! #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 17:10:14
dedekeeneRT @ColdCaseSquad: The police are not saying the condition the bodies were left in or how they died #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 17:10:18
ColdCaseSquadHi @dedekeene glad you can make it to the #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 17:11:16
ColdCaseSquadWe are on Overtime! #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 17:11:29
LilacLounge@Vidocq_CC @trickycase That's great news! Looking forward to insight he'll most certainly bring to proceedings :) #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 17:12:17
Vidocq_CC@ColdCaseSquad We'll go for the penalty shooting in a few... #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 17:12:31
forensicpathdochey all, gotta run, the fam is home. I will read up on some of these cases! DM me if you need anything! Have a good weekend! #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 17:12:34
katcop13It's a shame when victims don't have regular contact w friends or family, they don't know to report them missing. #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 17:12:44
Vidocq_CC@LilacLounge @trickycase mailed him the cases #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 17:12:55
LilacLounge@ColdCaseSquad Do we get a bonus? ;-) #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 17:13:00
Vidocq_CC@forensicpathdoc ok, next week again? #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 17:13:11
Vidocq_CC@LilacLounge @ColdCaseSquad Yes, Joe will be goalie! #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 17:14:19
oceanbluepress@katcop13 at least he shot himself *terrible #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 17:15:03
LilacLounge@katcop13 I guess in those circumstances it's not easy to establish how long they've been missing too. #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 17:15:30
ColdCaseSquad@Vidocq_CC I see this is growing legs and we should have a host of the week, What do you guys think? #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 17:16:00
oceanbluepress@ColdCaseSquad @Vidocq_CC for sure! maybe you can tell us in advance what cases you want to talk about so we can do our homewrk #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 17:17:08
Vidocq_CCI cannot host next week but will download the chat later on! #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 17:17:36
ColdCaseSquadI'll more than likely be around but I'll have some help, right guys??? #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 17:18:37
LilacLounge@oceanbluepress @ColdCaseSquad @Vidocq_CC Good idea re homework. Have ~10 pages open right now... Be good to read in advance. #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 17:19:01
oceanbluepress@ColdCaseSquad you bet! #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 17:19:03
LilacLounge@ColdCaseSquad Absolutely! :) #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 17:19:41
Vidocq_CCThe cases I mentioned earlier all seemed to hold our attention so how about digging in those and report next week? #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 17:19:52
katcop13No MP report, no match to be made. Too bad a central DB can't be set up w names of those who've lost contact; not necessarily MP #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 17:20:07
ColdCaseSquad@oceanbluepress has my back anyone else? Work schedule can be unpredictable at times! #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 17:20:24
oceanbluepress@LilacLounge same here my computer is protesting :) #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 17:20:27
oceanbluepress@Vidocq_CC will do #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 17:21:47
Vidocq_CCI think that @oceanbluepress and @lilaclounge will definitely be around to back-up Joe next week, right? #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 17:21:48
Vidocq_CC@katcop13 It is a good idea but also tricky re storage and privacy protection #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 17:22:38
katcop13I should be here next Fri. 4/1 12-1 ET for another cold case chat #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 17:22:48
oceanbluepress@Vidocq_CC @lilaclounge Yes! #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 17:22:52
LilacLounge@Vidocq_CC @oceanbluepress @ColdCaseSquad I surely will! #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 17:22:52
ColdCaseSquad@Katcop13 also as well as @bluedog89 #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 17:23:58
katcop13Can u imagine how many unidentified corpses could be ID'd if people came forward? They don't know enough to report them #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 17:23:59
LilacLoungeRight now people, my time is up! It's been a rollercoaster this week. Loved it. Catch you all later. #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 17:24:14
ColdCaseSquad@Katcop13 or if DNA was taken at birth #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 17:24:40
Vidocq_CC@LilacLounge Thanks, Sue! #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 17:24:47
MarieJoseGMHRT @ColdCaseSquad: We have Doctors, Lawyers, Cops, Authors chatting about criminal investigations, don't be shy #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 17:24:51
katcop13Thx @LilacLounge. See you next week. Enjoy your weekend :-) #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 17:24:53
oceanbluepress@LilacLounge see you next week #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 17:24:59
katcop13Love that idea @coldcasesquad. I have many "sci-fi" ideas
Fri, 25 Mar 2011 17:25:16
ColdCaseSquadHi @MarieJoseGMH Marie welcome @Vidocq_CC has us on overtime #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 17:25:51
LilacLoungeYes, a happy weekend to you all!!! #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 17:25:56
oceanbluepress@katcop13 @coldcasesquad apparently they can put chips in your arm (for medical purposes) #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 17:26:37
Vidocq_CC@katcop13 @coldcasesquad Lawyer here sees privacy issues... #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 17:26:55
katcop13How 'bout an "MP-reporting amnesty" to ask those who lost contact w loved ones (esp w drug/pros histories), IDs could be made #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 17:27:23
ColdCaseSquadYes folks its time for me to go, before I end up in a barrel! Wife is lurking wants to go shopping, ugh! #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 17:27:27
MarieJoseGMHLol hve fun!! I m on phone cant get to chats :((!“@ColdCaseSquad: Hi @MarieJoseGMH Marie welcome @Vidocq_CC has us on overtime #cclivechat”Fri, 25 Mar 2011 17:27:55
Vidocq_CC@ColdCaseSquad LOL, go shopping them and bring me some coffee beans! Talk to you later! #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 17:28:24
oceanbluepressTime for me to run, thanks all for the interesting chat! #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 17:28:30
katcop13Good luck @coldcasesquad ~ enjoy your weekend, too :-) #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 17:28:32
ColdCaseSquad@MarieJoseGMH is a big supporter that's a #FF order! :) #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 17:28:51
Vidocq_CC@katcop13 You don't have their permission so if they surface they can sue you #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 17:29:08
Vidocq_CC@oceanbluepress Email me later re cases, ok? #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 17:29:32
katcop13Maybe it could be like adoptee & birth mother search...if it can be linked... #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 17:29:46
ColdCaseSquad@Vidocq_CC and @Katcop13 talk via email later? #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 17:30:07
oceanbluepress@Vidocq_CC will do - have a great weekend #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 17:30:12
katcop1310-4... #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 17:30:40
Vidocq_CCok, folks! We are not taking penalty shots this week. Great discussions, recap will posted w/case overview later this evening! #cclivechatFri, 25 Mar 2011 17:30:57
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