This recap #cclivechat is one to bookmark! Laura Madison explained what crisis mapping is, how it can be used in cold cases, and gave examples using the ongoing Colorado wildfires.
Laura described herself as a “mom, research crimino-digitologist, poli junkie, vol tech comm outcast, crisisnapper, crowdsauce pilot JK!” I could not resist calling her out for napping during a crisis instead of mapping it! She described crisis mapping as maps that display near real-time data collected fr ‘crowds’ via mobile or Internet tech & apps making crisis mappers this era’s first responders. Data comes from folks at the scene who tweet or post details according to specific hashtags, an great example is here. Also, check the How To to see those hashtags used. This map re the Colorado Wildfires is created by @katestarbird using the Tweak The Tweat #TtT syntax Method.
We spoke about crowdsourcing: “Crowdsourcing began as a legitimate tool to leverage the wisdom of the crowds to solve complex business and scientific challenges. Howe defined crowdsourcing as the act of outsourcing a task to a large, undefined group of people through an open call.” Just think about your own neighbourhood. In cases of emergencies, all neighbours join in a search, a cleanup, carpool, etc. This is similar only on a bigger scale. Ordinary people tweet information about the location and the nature of the disaster, who is offering what kind of free service, who has shelter available, etc and all that information is collected by crisis mappers and displayed for easy visualization of the area. It pinpoints the disaster but also where the relief can be found.
Now to make this work for collaboration with law enforcement in cases of missing persons, Laura said the following:
“I view missing persons/unidentified as a s-l-o-w moving #disaster that affects millions of families+communities annually globally scale.
Missing Person officially – A missing person is defined as someone who has been formally reported to a policing agency.
Missing Person in community – A missing person is defined as someone who has been reported as missing to their immediate community.
The time between when a person goes missing and is reported to police varies.
We have seen in the past few years an increase in the use of social media to publicize missing persons cases.
We sometimes see Facebook groups and tweets, you tube video after its been officially reported to police and publicized via MSM.
Now increasingly on major+slow moving disaster we see reports originally on SM via citizens before its reported to officials.
Often we see patchwork state by state or provincial by provincial digital responses to these issues. Crisismapping can assist.
There are some maps but most have not very good User Interface and have missing/not enough information.
Websites that are not connected to other states/provs, not social media friendly.
Not much use of mapping NATIONALLY to visually illustrate the extent of this slow moving disaster.
Some national projects are bulky with complicated user interfaces that contains incomplete info, too many fields/none at all.
Australia Ntl Missing Policy: “PLEASE” principles of: prevention, *LOCATION*, education, awareness, support and evaluation.
police are encouraged to promote the concept of a national website or linked websites.
police are encouraged to promote but first build a USEFUL national websites that will allow for social media redistribution.
police are encouraged to crowdsource what citizens want+need in order to assist police.
citizens are encouraged to assist in crowdsourcing what citizens want+need in order to assist police.
Police GLOBALLY are encouraged to create AND release geo datasets to related missing ppl, unsolved & unident found human remains.
I am advocating that citizens+government work together to assist the slow moving #disaster of missing/unsolved/unident using open technology”
Needles to say this chat went into overtime so I wish to thank Laura again for being so generous with her time. If you have any questions for Laura, please place them in the comment box below this post and I will alert Laura.
Last, a good article on crisis mapping by Christa M. Miller can be found here.
The verbatim thread is below. The next #cclivechat is on Friday the 13th with a Bad Luck Detective who is aiming for TomSuz!
Cheers, V
Vidocq_CC | It is noon and my guest today is Laura Madison aka @Org9 who will discuss crisis mapping with us. #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 15:59:58 +0000 |
Vidocq_CC | Thank you, Laura, for doing this for me. How are you? #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:00:17 +0000 |
Org9 | I am Laura Madison. Mom, research crimino-digitologist, poli junkie, vol tech comm outcast, crisisnapper, crowdsauce pilot JK! #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:01:33 +0000 |
Org9 | @Vidocq_CC I am great! #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:01:55 +0000 |
Vidocq_CC | @Org9 OMG, can we add anything to this list? #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:02:35 +0000 |
rewarder | @vidocq_cc Hey guys, Rewarder here. We have crime-related rewards on our site. Ppl can spread to their networks and add $$ #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:02:52 +0000 |
Vidocq_CC | @Org9 By the way: are you a crisis napper or mapper? 😀 #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:03:08 +0000 |
LilacLounge | @Vidocq_CC @Org9 they both sound pretty complicated! Hi V. Hi Laura. Looking forward to hearing about what you do 🙂 #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:04:41 +0000 |
rewarder | @vidocq_cc @Org9 mapper then napper? #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:04:59 +0000 |
Vidocq_CC | @Org9 OK, so give us an introduction. What is crisis mapping and how is it used? #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:05:07 +0000 |
Org9 | Should i get started then? 😀 Mapper then...def napper! #cclivechat #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:05:36 +0000 |
Vidocq_CC | @rewarder We got her! Make a note, screen shot, etc. @org9 #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:05:46 +0000 |
christammiller | LOL, Laura does everything BUT nap during crises! 🙂 RT @vidocq_cc: @Org9 By the way: are you a crisis napper or mapper? 😀 #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:05:49 +0000 |
Vidocq_CC | @christammiller But it is a brilliant typo! #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:06:28 +0000 |
Org9 | Crisismapping – Maps that are created that display near real-time data collected fr ‘crowds’ via mobile or internet tech & apps #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:07:03 +0000 |
christammiller | @vidocq_cc Totally. Possibly even a Freudian slip. 😉 @Org9 #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:07:23 +0000 |
rewarder | @vidocq_cc @Org9 haha, yes we did! #caught #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:07:34 +0000 |
Org9 | @Vidocq_CC Twas not a typo! lol #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:07:48 +0000 |
christammiller | MT @org9: Crisismapping – Maps that display near real-time data collected fr ‘crowds’ via mobile or internet tech & apps #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:08:12 +0000 |
Org9 | “Crisismappers are this era’s first responders” ~Raymond, Howarth and Hutson #cclivechat #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:08:20 +0000 |
Vidocq_CC | RT @Org9: Crisismapping: Maps that display near real-time data collected fr ‘crowds’ via mobile or internet tech & apps #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:08:31 +0000 |
Org9 | Crisismapping example from #CoFire: Tweak The Tweat #TtT syntax Method created by @katestarbird : #cclivechat #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:08:58 +0000 |
christammiller | RT @org9: “Crisismappers are this era’s first responders” ~Raymond, Howarth and Hutson #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:09:18 +0000 |
Org9 | Example of a #crowdsourced via twitter #crisismap http://t.co/y8dmovdg #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:09:39 +0000 |
rewarder | @org9 So the old school map covered in pins has been upgraded? #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:09:51 +0000 |
T_Burrows | The new maping system. RT @rewarder: @org9 So the old school map covered in pins has been upgraded? #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:10:26 +0000 |
Vidocq_CC | RT @Org9: Example of a #crowdsourced via twitter #crisismap http://t.co/ZumzoZg6 #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:10:44 +0000 |
Vidocq_CC | @Org9 Fantastic! So your info comes from ordinary folks tweeting, texting, etc to assist victims and the authorities? #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:11:18 +0000 |
Org9 | FEMA imported the social “tweet data” collected via vols w/ #waldocanyonfire w #TtT Tweak the Tweet 2 their map: #cclivechat #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:11:23 +0000 |
Vidocq_CC | @T_Burrows Hi Tim, thanks for joining! #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:11:35 +0000 |
T_Burrows | @Vidocq_CC My pleasure. Can't stay long sadly though. #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:12:00 +0000 |
Vidocq_CC | @Org9 How do you safeguard the accuracy? Only place info on map if called in more than once? #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:12:15 +0000 |
Org9 | Fema map here: http://t.co/q89TBUhm #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:12:24 +0000 |
Vidocq_CC | @T_Burrows No problem at all. #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:12:42 +0000 |
Org9 | @Vidocq_CC Yes, data comes from all walks of life! 😀 #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:12:57 +0000 |
LilacLounge | @Org9 How do you verify that the information in tweets is accurate or do you measure volume of similar pieces of info? #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:13:26 +0000 |
christammiller | RT @org9: FEMA imported social “tweet data” collected via vols w/ #waldocanyonfire w #TtT Tweak the Tweet 2 their map: #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:14:01 +0000 |
Vidocq_CC | @LilacLounge Hi Sue, thanks for tuning in! #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:14:19 +0000 |
Org9 | @Vidocq_CC That's a huge question..but yes we do look at validation when the data is particularly useful/potentially actionable #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:14:29 +0000 |
Org9 | @LilacLounge We look at many factors including the tweeters stated location, their stream history and real time data #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:15:14 +0000 |
patricecloutier | MT @Org9: Crisismapping – Maps that display near real-time data collected fr ‘crowds’ via mobile or internet tech & apps #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:15:29 +0000 |
Org9 | @LilacLounge realtime data as contributed to from official agencies #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:15:37 +0000 |
Vidocq_CC | @Org9 How did the traditional emergency services respond to your crisis maps? #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:15:55 +0000 |
Vidocq_CC | @patricecloutier Welcome, thanks for joining! #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:16:16 +0000 |
Org9 | If persons tweet photos or personal reports from the ground in a disaster that we know to be real time we collect it #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:16:51 +0000 |
Org9 | @Vidocq_CC There has been some guarded but successful positive outcomes.. its a process to get to "proof of concept" #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:17:45 +0000 |
Org9 | #Crimemapping – Geolocated instances of crimes to visually illustrate breadth, potential cnxs, mobility of offenders #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:18:40 +0000 |
Org9 | #Crimemapping – Geolocating instances in order to visually illustrate missing/unsolved/unident promo of awareness of crim events #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:18:57 +0000 |
Vidocq_CC | @Org9 How can we use crisis mapping for cold cases? #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:19:58 +0000 |
rewarder | @org9 Sounds awesome. This must be a real game changer #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:20:08 +0000 |
Org9 | #Crowdsourcing – “is a process that involves outsourcing tasks to a distributed group of ppl” ~ Basic Wiki definition #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:20:10 +0000 |
LilacLounge | @Org9 in producing your crisis maps, do you work directly for a particular organization or are you freelance/independent? #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:20:42 +0000 |
T_Burrows | #cclivechat Crowd maps can improve by authorities confirming info and update as well. Means they have to be there (in space) #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:21:10 +0000 |
christammiller | RT @org9: #Crimemapping – Geolocated instances of crimes to visually illustrate breadth, potential cnxs, mobility of offenders #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:21:20 +0000 |
christammiller | RT @org9: #Crimemapping – Geolocating to visually illustrate missing/unsolved/unident promo of awareness of crim events #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:21:36 +0000 |
Org9 | @LilacLounge both 😀 #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:21:57 +0000 |
christammiller | RT @t_burrows: Crowd maps can improve by authorities confirming info and update as well. Means they have to be there (in space) #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:22:06 +0000 |
Vidocq_CC | @T_Burrows That implies a willingness to collaborate! Does that already exist? 😉 #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:22:24 +0000 |
Org9 | #Crowdsourcing = process that involves *asking crowd* 1st what outsourcing tasks need/could b distributed 2 a grp of willing ppl #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:22:31 +0000 |
Org9 | @T_Burrows absolutely Folksie! #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:22:56 +0000 |
Org9 | #crowdsourcing maintaining that *continuous* cnx to the crowd via platforms of their choosing” #cclivechat #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:23:26 +0000 |
T_Burrows | @Vidocq_CC In some circles it sure does, in others, a struggle continues. #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:23:41 +0000 |
patricecloutier | for EM agencies, the crowdsourcing and crisis mapping must provide actionalble info and be effective comms tool #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:24:04 +0000 |
Org9 | #crowdsourcing – is about the *human motivation* to solve problems collectively . #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:24:30 +0000 |
Vidocq_CC | @Org9 So you need to work with different social media platforms as well? #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:24:53 +0000 |
Org9 | #crowdsourcing can only be sustained long term via that collective will not via external mgmt or an imposed process #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:24:55 +0000 |
Org9 | RT @patricecloutier: 4 EM agencies, the crowdsourcing and crisis mapping must provide actionalble info 2 be effective comms tool #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:25:41 +0000 |
Org9 | Crimesourcing – Marc Goodman’s focus on “distributed criminal networks” http://t.co/B9qLc4la #cclivechat #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:25:51 +0000 |
christammiller | @org9 Those are a lot of people to coordinate -- what are the biggest challenges you find in #crisismapping? #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:26:13 +0000 |
Vidocq_CC | @patricecloutier That implies EM agencies use social media as a communication tool and include us in their team. #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:26:30 +0000 |
Org9 | My use of this term #crimesourcing is more fr a practitioner’s view ie; “distributed crime solving" via the crowd. #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:26:56 +0000 |
Org9 | @christammiller Hm, acceptance by some agencies as valid, the same old "human factors" in any collective work.. #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:28:12 +0000 |
Vidocq_CC | @Org9 How did you get involved with crisis mapping and what was your first "case?" #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:28:17 +0000 |
Org9 | #crowdsourcing – is not a/b simply using good ppl 4 cheap labour or 2 guarantee media hits or decreased econ overhead for ur org #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:29:36 +0000 |
Org9 | @Vidocq_CC Oh boy... crisismapping has a long history with me..kinda before it was called that..which bring me to missing ppl... #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:30:26 +0000 |
Vidocq_CC | @Org9 Pls explain #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:31:16 +0000 |
Org9 | I view missing persons/unident as a s-l-o-w moving #disaster that affects millions of fams+communities annually globally scale #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:31:45 +0000 |
Org9 | Missing Person officially - A missing person is defined as some1 who has been formally rept'd to a policing agency #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:32:40 +0000 |
Org9 | Missing Person in community – A missing person is defined as some1 who has been reported as missing to their immediate community #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:33:18 +0000 |
Org9 | The time between when a person goes missing and is reported to police varies. #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:33:47 +0000 |
Org9 | We have seen in the past few years an increase in the use of social media to publicize missing persons cases #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:34:04 +0000 |
MontgomerySue | RT @Org9: #Crimemapping – Geolocated instances of crimes to visually illustrate breadth, potential cnxs, mobility of offenders #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:34:19 +0000 |
Org9 | We sometimes see Facebook groups and tweets, you tube video after its been officially reported to police and publicized via MSM #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:34:22 +0000 |
Vidocq_CC | @MontgomerySue Welcome, and thanks for the RT! #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:35:00 +0000 |
surflightroy | “@Org9: Crimesourcing – Marc Goodman’s focus on “distributed criminal networks” http://t.co/nOST2sRR #cclivechat #cclivechat” | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:35:11 +0000 |
Org9 | Now increasingly on maj.+slow moving disaster we see reports orig. on SM via citizens b4 its reported to officials. #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:35:46 +0000 |
Vidocq_CC | @surflightroy Thanks and welcome! #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:35:49 +0000 |
Org9 | 100,000 reports of missing persons in Canada each year. #cclivechat #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:36:05 +0000 |
Org9 | From this total, approximately 4,800 persons are still missing after a year passes. #cclivechat #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:36:16 +0000 |
Org9 | There is also an average increase of 270 new, long-term missing persons annually. #cclivechat #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:36:28 +0000 |
Vidocq_CC | RT @Org9: Now increasingly on maj.+slow moving disaster we see reports orig. on SM via citizens b4 its reported to officials. #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:36:29 +0000 |
IdeaGov | RT @christammiller: @org9 Those are a lot of people to coordinate -- what are the biggest challenges you find in #crisismapping? #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:36:34 +0000 |
rewarder | @org9 Rewarder has a few missing persons cases now. Here's one involving a missing Fox Exec: http://t.co/zV4mvZLX #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:36:41 +0000 |
Org9 | #US Nancy Ritter in the National Institute of Justice Journal in 2007 calls it “The nations silent mass disaster” #cclivechat #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:36:52 +0000 |
Org9 | 40,000 sets of human remains cannot be identified through conventional methods #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:37:10 +0000 |
Vidocq_CC | @IdeaGov Thanks for the RT and welcome! #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:37:19 +0000 |
Org9 | @IdeaGov @christammiller i find TOO many ppl require too much management...that's is one issue i see...try lean & mean = future #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:38:15 +0000 |
Org9 | #USA Daily there are 100,000 active missing persons cases in the United States. #cclivechat #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:38:55 +0000 |
TrickyCase | RT @Vidocq_CC: It is noon and my guest today is Laura Madison aka @Org9 who will discuss crisis mapping with us. #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:39:34 +0000 |
Org9 | “Solving a cold case is not a matter of chance/luck; it is, quite simply, a matter of design and protocol.” ~ CHI #cclivechat #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:39:45 +0000 |
Vidocq_CC | @Org9 Agreed, and maybe try some non-conventional methods? Are there maps highlighting missing people's cases? #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:39:45 +0000 |
IdeaGov | Apply agile + scrum to people management during crisis. @Org9 @christammiller #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:40:17 +0000 |
Vidocq_CC | @Org9 Are you sure this is daily in the USA? And yearly in Canada? Why the sharp difference? #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:40:43 +0000 |
Vidocq_CC | @TrickyCase Merci and welcome back! #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:40:57 +0000 |
Org9 | Often we see patchwork state by state or prov by prov digital responses to these issues. Crisismapping can assist #cclivechat #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:41:01 +0000 |
Org9 | @Vidocq_CC "daily" meaning on any given day..not per day.. continuous #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:41:38 +0000 |
christammiller | MT @org9: i find TOO many ppl require too much management...that's is one issue i see...try lean & mean = future #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:42:27 +0000 |
ekbusinesslaw | RT @Vidocq_CC: @ekbusinesslaw @GavWard Do you have time for a chat on twitter on crisis mapping? Follow hashtag #cclivechat! That's what I'm doing now. | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:42:27 +0000 |
Org9 | @Vidocq_CC There are some maps but most have not very good UI and have missing/not enough info. Getting to that 😉 #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:42:28 +0000 |
IdeaGov | RT @Org9: Often we see patchwork state by state or prov by prov digital responses to these issues. Crisismapping can assist #cclivechat #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:42:41 +0000 |
christammiller | RT @ideagov: Apply agile + scrum to people management during crisis. @Org9 @christammiller #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:42:53 +0000 |
Org9 | Websites that are not connected to other states/provs, not social media friendly #cclivechat #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:43:07 +0000 |
christammiller | RT @org9: “Solving a cold case is not a matter of chance/luck; it is, quite simply, a matter of design and protocol.” ~ CHI #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:43:30 +0000 |
Org9 | Not much use of mapping NATIONALLY to visually illustrate the extent of this slow moving disaster #cclivechat #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:43:39 +0000 |
Vidocq_CC | @Org9 So were can we go on the web to see your work and refer to it when we talk to our EM agencies? #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:43:46 +0000 |
Org9 | Some ntl proj. are bulky, w/ complicated user interfaces that contains incomplete info, too many fields/none at all. #cclivechat #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:44:31 +0000 |
Vidocq_CC | @Org9 So what does it take to change that, to have national maps w/accurate data? #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:44:39 +0000 |
TrickyCase | @Vidocq_CC better late than never 😉 #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:44:44 +0000 |
Org9 | Dataset on this info has not been dev'd or offered to pub in formats suitable for geo-mapping not in Canada/USA #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:45:45 +0000 |
Org9 | @Vidocq_CC The will to do it... #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:46:16 +0000 |
Org9 | “We know that when the media broadcasts news of a missing person, volunteers will arrive to help.” #cclivechat #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:46:32 +0000 |
Org9 | 2010- IACP and the Volunteers in Police Service (VIPS) Participants discussed the use of affiliated and spontaneous volunteers #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:47:08 +0000 |
rewarder | @trickycase Welcome aboard, Richard. Good to have a fingerprint expert among us! #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:47:09 +0000 |
Vidocq_CC | @Org9 That is correct. Who are THE crisis mappers to follow on Twitter? #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:47:29 +0000 |
Org9 | IACP discussed the use of affiliated and spontaneous volunteers in missing person investigations #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:47:39 +0000 |
ColdCaseSquad | Am I too late to the party #cclivechat ? | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:47:50 +0000 |
Org9 | Activities for volunteers to aid Missing Person investigations “Develop and maintain a missing person Web site” #cclivechat #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:48:02 +0000 |
Vidocq_CC | @ColdCaseSquad 10min left unless @org9 is ok to go into overtime. #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:48:31 +0000 |
Org9 | @Vidocq_CC @katestarbird and her crazy rag tag group of vols 🙂 #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:48:34 +0000 |
Org9 | IACP link https://t.co/DX7CwxR3 #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:48:59 +0000 |
QBay247 | RT @Org9: #crowdsourcing – is about the *human motivation* to solve problems collectively . #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:49:10 +0000 |
Vidocq_CC | @Org9 Exactly as for unsolved homicides to get info to folks that moved away, etc. #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:49:10 +0000 |
Org9 | Australia Ntl Missing Policy: “PLEASE” principles of: prevention, *LOCATION*, education, awareness, support and evaluation. #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:49:58 +0000 |
Org9 | Final Report of the Provincial Partnership Committee on Missing Persons #cclivechat #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:50:15 +0000 |
Org9 | http://t.co/5yUJeu7H #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:50:41 +0000 |
IdeaGov | RT @Org9: Some ntl proj. are bulky, w/ complicated user interfaces that contains incomplete info, too many fields/none at all. #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:50:52 +0000 |
Vidocq_CC | @QBay247 Right and welcome! #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:50:53 +0000 |
Org9 | “police are encouraged to promote the concept of a national website or linked websites” #cclivechat #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:50:58 +0000 |
TrickyCase | A great discussion on crisis mapping being led by @Org9 taking place using #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:51:04 +0000 |
Org9 | “police are encouraged to promote but first build a USEFUL national websites that will allow for social media redistribution” #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:51:11 +0000 |
Org9 | “police are encouraged to crowdsource what citizens want+need in order to assist police #crimesourcing information” #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:51:32 +0000 |
IdeaGov | RT @Org9: “police are encouraged to crowdsource what citizens want+need in order to assist police #crimesourcing information” #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:51:47 +0000 |
Org9 | “citizens are encouraged to assist in crowdsourcing what citizens want+need in order to assist police #crimesourcing info” #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:52:02 +0000 |
Vidocq_CC | RT @Org9 police are encouraged to promote but first build USEFUL national website that will allow 4 social media redistribution #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:52:17 +0000 |
Org9 | Police GLOBALLY are encouraged 2 create AND release geo datasets to related missing ppl, unsolved & unident found human remains #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:52:51 +0000 |
Vidocq_CC | @Org9 Which police departments are ahead of the game with crimesourcing and activating their citizens? #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:53:13 +0000 |
Vidocq_CC | @org9 Do you have time to continue after 1pm EST? #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:54:06 +0000 |
Org9 | I am advocating that citizens+govt work together to assist the slow moving #disaster of missing/unsolved/unident using open tech #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:54:29 +0000 |
Org9 | @Vidocq_CC Sure! #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:54:37 +0000 |
Org9 | @Vidocq_CC Hm, some do have "elements" leaning towards sig. progress using tech but many do not maintain momentum #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:55:30 +0000 |
Org9 | @Vidocq_CC Hm, some do have "elements" leaning towards sig. progress using tech but many do not maintain momentum #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:55:30 +0000 |
Vidocq_CC | It is official" #cclivechat continues on crisis mapping with @Org9 until ... well, we'll see! #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:55:36 +0000 |
Org9 | @Vidocq_CC Don't make me name names...lol 😉 #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:56:00 +0000 |
Vidocq_CC | @ColdCaseSquad Do you or did your department use crisis mapping, Joe? #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:56:03 +0000 |
Org9 | For example non searchable site using pdf's - yeah that's right.. tremendously out dated. #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:56:52 +0000 |
Vidocq_CC | @TrickyCase The collaboration of different organizations must appeal to you. Does the UK use crisis mapping, Richard? #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:56:56 +0000 |
rewarder | @vidocq_cc @Org9 Thanks for the chat guys! Check us out if you ever need to post a reward 🙂 #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:57:23 +0000 |
ColdCaseSquad | @Vidocq_CC no V Crime Mapping and the prediction of crimes based on mapping #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:57:25 +0000 |
Vidocq_CC | @Org9 OK, I won't! #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:57:27 +0000 |
Vidocq_CC | @rewarder See ya later! #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:58:31 +0000 |
Org9 | Mapping & graphic illustration's related unresolved criminal events will harness the creative community & good will of citizens #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:58:45 +0000 |
Sasha_Taylor | RT @Org9: “Crisismappers are this era’s first responders” ~Raymond, Howarth and Hutson #cclivechat #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:59:30 +0000 |
Org9 | Police, instead of spending MILLIONS on an interface citizens won't use should just GIVE US THE DATA 😀 #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:59:34 +0000 |
Sasha_Taylor | RT @Org9: Example of a #crowdsourced via twitter #crisismap http://t.co/y8dmovdg #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:59:59 +0000 |
Vidocq_CC | @Org9 Suppose someone reads this chat's recap and wants to help with crisis mapping. What should they do? #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 17:00:14 +0000 |
Org9 | The thing is people will create, maintain and CARE deeply about something they created for their community #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 17:00:48 +0000 |
Vidocq_CC | @Sasha_Taylor Hi Sasha, welcome and thanks for the RT! #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 17:00:49 +0000 |
ColdCaseSquad | @Org9 PDs will never give up the data citing privacy issues #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 17:00:59 +0000 |
Sasha_Taylor | RT @Org9: @LilacLounge We look at many factors including the tweeters stated location, their stream history and real time data #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 17:01:17 +0000 |
Org9 | @Vidocq_CC Do the research in their community first... #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 17:01:18 +0000 |
Sasha_Taylor | RT @Org9: @LilacLounge realtime data as contributed to from official agencies #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 17:01:25 +0000 |
Vidocq_CC | @Org9 Define "us" #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 17:01:27 +0000 |
Sasha_Taylor | RT @Org9: #Crimemapping – Geolocated instances of crimes to visually illustrate breadth, potential cnxs, mobility of offenders #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 17:01:45 +0000 |
Sasha_Taylor | RT @Org9: @Vidocq_CC There has been some guarded but successful positive outcomes.. its a process to get to "proof of concept" #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 17:01:58 +0000 |
LilacLounge | @Org9 it's been fascinating. Been quietly absorbing info in the background. @Vidocq_CC need to sign out. Will look for recap! #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 17:02:02 +0000 |
Org9 | @ColdCaseSquad I have created a 10,000 file strong Canadian database soon to be mapped from media..we'll do it anyways 😀 #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 17:02:18 +0000 |
Vidocq_CC | @ColdCaseSquad But if a case has been cold for years can we not make the case to share in hopes to raise awareness? #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 17:02:23 +0000 |
christammiller | Offline for a phone call. Good #cclivechat @Vidocq_CC & @Org9 !! | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 17:02:38 +0000 |
Org9 | @LilacLounge Thx for stopping in 😀 #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 17:02:40 +0000 |
Vidocq_CC | @Org9 But you just said that the programming is not available to the public so folks collect info on paper and then? #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 17:03:00 +0000 |
TrickyCase | @Vidocq_CC I don't have much info on that, but the UK has recently launched a national crime map system at http://t.co/DA7xUfV2 #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 17:03:01 +0000 |
Sasha_Taylor | @Vidocq_CC sorry joined in late so will probably just be reading RT’ing @Org9 #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 17:03:04 +0000 |
Vidocq_CC | @LilacLounge OK, thanks, Sue! See you later! #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 17:03:23 +0000 |
Vidocq_CC | @christammiller Thanks, see you later, Christa! #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 17:03:50 +0000 |
Sasha_Taylor | Great topic today and relevant to VOSTUK project I am part of with others #vostuk #cclivechat @likeaword | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 17:04:02 +0000 |
Vidocq_CC | @TrickyCase Awesome! Thanks for the link. #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 17:04:07 +0000 |
Org9 | @Vidocq_CC I, from lack of a national unified police website started my own project years ago.. #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 17:04:12 +0000 |
Vidocq_CC | @Sasha_Taylor I'll post a recap on my blog http://t.co/BtADBwBv #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 17:04:29 +0000 |
Vidocq_CC | @Org9 Now we are getting to it, more please! #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 17:04:59 +0000 |
ColdCaseSquad | Before everyone leaves-Looking for info on 1928 murder of couple & former mayor of Carbondale http://t.co/ZZdqxBSk #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 17:05:15 +0000 |
Org9 | @Vidocq_CC There are vast networks of social scientist, researchers, technologist, coders & all types that work on these topics. #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 17:05:47 +0000 |
Sasha_Taylor | @Vidocq_CC brilliant 🙂 #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 17:06:10 +0000 |
Org9 | MT @ColdCaseSquad: B4 every1 leaves-Looking for info on 1928 murder of couple & former mayor of Carbondale http://t.co/9AQyOkeC #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 17:06:19 +0000 |
Vidocq_CC | RT @ColdCaseSquad Be4 everyone leaves-Looking for info on 1928 murder of couple &former mayor of Carbondale http://t.co/yb4DitQS #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 17:06:25 +0000 |
Sasha_Taylor | RT @T_Burrows: #cclivechat Crowd maps can improve by authorities confirming info and update as well. Means they have to be there (in space) #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 17:06:34 +0000 |
ColdCaseSquad | @Org9 would it be necessary to have the actual complaint or just the date, time, day of week and MO? #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 17:07:24 +0000 |
Vidocq_CC | @Org9 I can imagine someone reading this and thinking "but I have no university in my town, where do I go to help?" #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 17:07:50 +0000 |
Sasha_Taylor | RT @Org9: #crowdsourcing maintaining that *continuous* cnx to the crowd via platforms of their choosing” #cclivechat #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 17:07:52 +0000 |
Org9 | @Vidocq_CC What i mean is the data has been manually collected by me and imported to KMZ/KML files for mapping in Canada #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 17:08:21 +0000 |
Sasha_Taylor | “@T_Burrows: @Vidocq_CC In some circles it sure does, in others, a struggle continues. #cclivechat” 2nd that | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 17:08:37 +0000 |
Sasha_Taylor | @patricecloutier and trusted source?? #cclivechat @Org9 | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 17:09:28 +0000 |
Org9 | @Vidocq_CC Library, google news archives, local newspaper archive, historical societies, websleuths in their region #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 17:09:28 +0000 |
TrickyCase | @Vidocq_CC also the @murdermap is an interesting project http://t.co/2ZsAcTrG #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 17:09:56 +0000 |
Sasha_Taylor | “@Org9: #crowdsourcing – is about the *human motivation* to solve problems collectively . #cclivechat” great way of putting it | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 17:10:18 +0000 |
Vidocq_CC | @Org9 What are KMZ/KML files? #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 17:10:27 +0000 |
Sasha_Taylor | “@Vidocq_CC: @Org9 So you need to work with different social media platforms as well? #cclivechat” surely you must use platforms they use? | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 17:11:05 +0000 |
Sasha_Taylor | RT @Org9: Crimesourcing – Marc Goodman’s focus on “distributed criminal networks” http://t.co/B9qLc4la #cclivechat #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 17:11:25 +0000 |
Vidocq_CC | @TrickyCase Thanks for the tip, following @murdermap now. #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 17:11:38 +0000 |
Org9 | @Vidocq_CC KML is a file format used to display geographic data in an Earth browser such as Google Earth #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 17:13:26 +0000 |
Org9 | @TrickyCase i remember @murdermap 🙂 #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 17:13:49 +0000 |
Vidocq_CC | @Org9 Is there a particular cold case you'd like to map? #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 17:14:53 +0000 |
ColdCaseSquad | @Vidocq_CC the case is very old and probably never be solved, but it has become more of a historical footnote #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 17:15:14 +0000 |
Vidocq_CC | @ColdCaseSquad I know about it but who knows, inject new life? #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 17:16:27 +0000 |
ColdCaseSquad | In the post, I explain the motives and who benefited most-but its no big secret-piqued my interest #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 17:18:00 +0000 |
Vidocq_CC | 10min warning, folks and then I have to sign off! #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 17:18:16 +0000 |
Org9 | #Crisismapping w/ #Crimesourcing = huge potential to harness the crowd to potentially assist in solving missing/unsolved/unident #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 17:18:26 +0000 |
Vidocq_CC | If you have questions re crisis mapping for @Org9 ask them now! #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 17:18:41 +0000 |
Org9 | @ColdCaseSquad I have many that i know are likely to be unsolved but i find each contains an element to learn fr w/ newer cases #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 17:19:18 +0000 |
ColdCaseSquad | @Org9 is this similar to Predictive Policing? #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 17:19:31 +0000 |
Org9 | Governments, essentially need 2 free the data. Police need to advocate for the opendata movement as it's also in their interest. #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 17:20:50 +0000 |
Vidocq_CC | @ColdCaseSquad If predictive policing is not carefully done there is a risk of profiling. #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 17:21:17 +0000 |
Org9 | @ColdCaseSquad Perhaps, in that patterns and maybe even answers only truly come to life within open minds. #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 17:21:37 +0000 |
Vidocq_CC | @Org9 But exposing data means more people know "persons of interest." What is the risk to the public? #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 17:22:10 +0000 |
ColdCaseSquad | Should I get rid of my Magic Eight Ball then? 😉 #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 17:22:36 +0000 |
Org9 | @Vidocq_CC Sry, can you clarify? #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 17:22:46 +0000 |
Org9 | @ColdCaseSquad Try bowling with it and predicting how many pins you knock down = true talent #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 17:23:28 +0000 |
ColdCaseSquad | @Vidocq_CC what about risking victim information? For instance sex offense victims identities are protected by law #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 17:23:31 +0000 |
Vidocq_CC | @Org9 Someone not caught yet might try to find the folks who are trying to map the unsolved case. #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 17:24:18 +0000 |
Org9 | @Vidocq_CC To me, there is more risk to public when info gathers dust. Within reason of course keeping w/ investigational integ. #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 17:24:48 +0000 |
Vidocq_CC | @ColdCaseSquad Or minors for that matter! #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 17:25:12 +0000 |
Org9 | @ColdCaseSquad Victims of sexual assault are not generally ID'd in Canada. #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 17:25:20 +0000 |
nuxnix | #cclivechat Our @multizone police app maps are designed to be updated with open /crisis data as well. At the mo. only officer interventions | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 17:25:35 +0000 |
Vidocq_CC | 5min warning, folks! #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 17:25:51 +0000 |
Vidocq_CC | @nuxnix Thanks and welcome! #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 17:26:53 +0000 |
Org9 | @Vidocq_CC that's a definite rarity & i know police have learned a gr8 deal about what not to do re; certain types of offenders #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 17:27:44 +0000 |
Org9 | @nuxnix Interesting, thanks for contributing 😀 #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 17:28:05 +0000 |
ColdCaseSquad | Excellent job @org9 and @Vidocq_CC very interesting #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 17:28:14 +0000 |
Org9 | @Vidocq_CC Highly unlikely.. #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 17:28:33 +0000 |
Org9 | @ColdCaseSquad 😀 #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 17:28:45 +0000 |
Vidocq_CC | I have to go, folks. @Org9, thanks so much for doing this extended chat with us. #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 17:29:02 +0000 |
Org9 | @Vidocq_CC My point is - 1000 of ppl talk about and map crime on the internet...if an offender would do that he would anyways #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 17:29:49 +0000 |
Vidocq_CC | I'll post a recap later incl verbatim thread. If you have any questions for Laura, place them in the comment box below the post. #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 17:30:00 +0000 |
Org9 | @Vidocq_CC Thanks Vidster! Your da bestest! 😀 #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 17:30:07 +0000 |
Vidocq_CC | Thanks everyone for joining! Next week, Friday the 13th, a bad Luck Detective known as @SuzieIvy joins us! #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 17:30:59 +0000 |
TrickyCase | @Org9 @murdermap has had its critics but from an historical point of view its fab 🙂 #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 17:31:16 +0000 |
Org9 | If anyone wants more info on my proj. #crisismapping Canadian missing/unsolved/unident feel free to DM me! Thanks everyone 🙂 #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 17:31:30 +0000 |
SuzieIvy | RT @Vidocq_CC: Thanks everyone for joining! Next week, Friday the 13th, a bad Luck Detective known as @SuzieIvy joins us! #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 17:31:31 +0000 |
Org9 | RT @Vidocq_CC: Thanks everyone for joining! Next week, Friday the 13th, a bad Luck Detective known as @SuzieIvy joins us! #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 17:31:35 +0000 |
Vidocq_CC | @Org9 And so are you so now you can go from map to nap? #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 17:31:35 +0000 |
Vidocq_CC | Signing off! #cclivechat | Fri, 06 Jul 2012 17:32:32 +0000 |