Different angles in the Branagan Case…

on June 6th, 2010

I have been musing with my friends on Twitter about some of the cold cases on DCC and good remarks have led me to rethink some cases, go back over details, check where I might have missed something, or where I assumed something was clear while it only was so because I had worked on the case and wrote the post myself. So to me, yes, it was clear.

One Twitter friend has been very helpful in trying to shed some light on the behaviour of Clancy, the Branagan family dog. His behaviour puzzled me but this friend made me aware of experiences they had with dogs in mourning. This friend told me that dogs they knew very well would whimper and sulk during mourning and those dogs did not act panicky at all. Another Twitter friend told me that it is possible for dogs to sense that someone is no longer breathing and that therefore Clancy might never have made more noise than usual when approaching the front door when “Brenda” stopped by in the morning.

The Branagan post is still not where I want it to be since it has too many gaps. For example, what if the friend lied. I mean, the friend who was on the phone when Holly mentioned that someone was at the door and that she was going to hang up but would call back. That friend claimed she called back around 5:00pm and nobody answered. What is that is not true. What if she called and got a busy signal? That could mean that Holly was already struggling and fighting for her life. What if that friend never called back at all? Then we should ask ourselves why she lied to police about calling back. Was she trying to be interesting or, had she in fact called back and heard something she was not supposed to hear or could not tell police?

Now consider the other friend, the one who came to the Branagan house to pick up Holly for a pizza dinner at 6pm. This friend rang the door bell, nobody comes, and she leaves. Did she see any lights on in the house? Did she knock on the front door? Did she hear Clancy or did Clancy come to the front door? Did she walk around the back? There is no information on those issues and they could alter the scenario and time line.

Now, consider the possibility that these two friends were one and the same person…than that person lied about calling back…why?

And then another thought hit me: what if Holly had an ulterior motive for calling her dad’s office to see whether he had already left for his business trip. What if she did not call to wish him a safe trip? What if she called to make sure he would not be home that evening so she had privacy? Another friend on Twitter mentioned the same possibility since it explained some of the silence after the crime.

Privacy to openly enjoy some marijuana in the house, privacy to invite someone over …all the things her dad might have objected to had he known or been there. What if the call was to assure privacy to invite over a lover? Did Holly have a lover at the time? There is no information about that but it is not impossible, right? Holly was a pretty sixteen year old young girl, in love with life, with lots of friends at school. Do note that I wrote lover instead of boyfriend.

Why?

Because until more details become available, I’d like to keep the door open to the possibility that the lover was a girl. Just like we should keep an open mind that the killer wielding the kitchen knife could have been female, we should keep an open mind for the possibility that there was a female lover. It could explain why Holly checked with her dad’s office if she wanted to assure privacy. It could also explain why youngsters and parents were tight lipped when police made inquiries after the murder. I have not been able to find out more about this angle but it would shed a different light on the case with new possibilities and maybe, leads.

Exposing teen homosexuality…that might cause people to remain silent. It was the 70s …but even now in 2010, these issues persist. We still see people hiding their true love out of fear they will be scorned and ridiculed. One of the latest tragedies here is the former UK Treasury Secretary David Laws. “I grew up at a time when homosexuality had only just been legalised and when most people still thought it was wrong or shameful. I decided, therefore, to keep my sexuality secret, and the further time went on the more difficult it seemed to be to tell the truth,” Laws said in a statement to local media.” The entire Laws affair can be found online and I am not going to describe it here. I do wish to note that I find it appalling that people cannot be openly happy and in the relationship of their heart’s desire just because their love is of the same gender.

Back to Branagan, I will have to do some more digging here and would like to encourage people who are interested in this case to do some brainstorming here in the comment section.

To be continued…

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178 Responses to “Different angles in the Branagan Case…”

  1. Frediano says:

    Jim:

    Far fetched, I agree. A real long shot, and as well, seems like fraught with opportunities to fail/get caught.

    It’s all I could come up with, to imagine an alternative to ‘Sean just screwed up.’ I wondered, ‘How could he have been using more gasoline than he thought he was using?’ Because to me, the thought of Sean hurling a gallon bucket of gasoline onto the floor in a closed bay is just bizarre, too. But, that might very well be what happened.

    But…why or how can we assume ‘young kids?’

  2. Gumby says:

    @ Frediano: And why were the bay doors shut???

  3. Frediano says:

    No idea. When I first heard this, I thought they were closing up, but this happened in the morning, they were opening up. Maybe they didn’t want the noise and smell and mess to bother the customers at the pumps. I don’t know. This was a September morning. Maybe it was cool out that day? Does seem a little odd, not something you’d want do when using gasoline as a solvent.

    Gasoline explosions require a narrow range of a/f ratio. Too lean, and no explosion. Too rich, and no explosion. It’s actually a fairly narrow range of a/f ratio. So, however this happened, say the spray washer motor is kicking on and off. Nothing is happening, the a/f ratio hasn’t gotten high enough. So, it seems like it isn’t going to be a problem. But eventually, the a/f ratio rises into the critical range, and then the next spark after that causes an explosion. But, now it is that a/f ratio in a large volume, the interior of the garage bays. So, the result is a big explosion. With the bay doors open, the environment might never have reached the required a/f ratio. What I’m saying is, Sean might have been lulled into thinking it wasn’t a problem, and just screwed up with the bay doors closed.

  4. Gumby says:

    We had one family in particular in the neighborhood who was, and still is, assumed to be “mob” related…?

  5. Frediano says:

    @ Frediano:

    RE: “young kids”

    The reports are that she was on the phone with a young friend and said someone is at the door, without identifying that someone.

    You would think, if the someone was at the door was someone they both knew, she would have identified that someone to her friend on the phone. Her exact words would be important. Did she say, “Someone is at the door” because the doorbell rang and she had no idea who(or how many people)were at the door, and did she eventually come back on the line and say “There is something I have to take care of” without identifying the who or how many?

    So, there are many of possibilities:

    1] The someone or more at the door(we still don’t know how many people were at the door, as far as I can tell, everyone assumes ’1′ for some reason I can’t understand) is/are ‘young folks’ who Holly knows but her friend on the phone doesn’t know.

    2] They are ‘young folks’ who Holly knows and the friend knows, but Holly doesn’t want her friend to know are there. A different circle of friends.

    3] They are ‘older folks’, at least one of whom Holly knows and trusts but her friend on the phone doesn’t really know, so there is no point or need or desire to tell her friend who is at the door, would require too much pointless explanation at that point.

    4] The whole story about someone at the door is false. (But we know someone eventually came to the door, because Holly didn’t stab herself.)

    I don’t know that we, far away from the facts of the investigation and just wondering, have any basis to rule any of those out. And so, how can we be certain about the ‘young person’ angle?

  6. 5) Someone could have been in the house before Holly came home. Maybe she interrupted a burglary…did a doorbell ring or was it a knock? The sound she heard may have been a knock or someone moving about the house.

    Go back to the explosion scenario…I cleaned garage floors with gasoline growing up in a family of auto mechanics. Pour gas on the floor and scrub oil off for about a half hour sometimes. That puts out a lot of fumes. Move on to the next bay and do the same thing. When I’m done, I hose it down into the street. I always left the doors open doing this. We never used a pressure washer, just the garden hose and a stiff broom.

  7. Frediano says:

    @ jim friedman:

    That for sure fits, too. I went back and reread some old reports, and the young friend said she heard voices, but could not tell if they were male or female. So, you’re right. And, Holly could have already been under duress when she hung up, but they asked her friend about that, and she didn’t notice anything, I think. But, that doesn’t mean Holly wasn’t under duress. As well, her friend on the phone would not have necessarily been on the alert, looking for signs of duress.

    I remember using gasoline as a solvent, too. Tore down a lot of outboard motors. But like you say, always with plenty of ventilation… who didn’t know that, who regularly worked with gasoline?

    Maybe Sean just got careless with the bay doors, that is what it seems like. The explosive limits for gasoline are something like 1.5% to 7.5% a/f mixture by volume. So, it takes a while to get the enclosed volume of the garage bay up to that critical range, but once it is, it is a big volume, and so, a big explosion…

  8. Gumby says:

    Another thought, I know back then, in such a safe, quiet neighborhood…we rarely locked our doors; thus no forced entry.

    I still can NOT get past Cindy saying that Holly told her to hang on, someone was at the door, then coming back and NOT telling her “who”, just I will call you back. We were nosy, jealous teenage girls…we would have asked who, what, where, why AND when!!!

  9. Frediano says:

    Couldn’t she have been abrupt, and dismissive? Holly could have picked up the phone, blurted that out, and then just hung up, like she was in your basic teenage hurry.

    Gottago, needtotakecareofthis, callyoulater, seeyalaterbye … click.

    No chance for any lengthy ‘follow-up.’

    Cindy might have wanted to ask all kinds of things… but had no chance to. As I remember, not that unusual for teenage kids to be in a flat-out breathless rush, even over nothing…

    When this is going on, Cindy Bove isn’t aware that there is anything unusual going on. So, it’s not like she has her radar up, looking for signs of anything unusual in Holly… it’s only now, long after the fact, that we are wondering, “Why wasn’t Cindy asking all kinds of questions?” Did she actually say “at the door?” Did the doorbell actually ring?

    Jim mentioned another possibility.

    Actually… it could have been both, now that I think of it. Someone at the door, and also, someone already in the house….how could we rule that out, based on what is known?

  10. Gumby says:

    @ Frediano: I thought Cindy Bove said Holly said someone is at the door…set the phone down…then came back and said I’ll call you back…thus my 5 w’s???

    I think I have said before…if, at that age, I had dinner plans with a friend and I showed up to pick them up AND they didn’t answer…I wouldn’t be thinking they were inside DEAD…I would be pissed, that they blew me off. I would have have been calling every other minute…do phone records show Cindy Bove calling at all that night??? Just saying, been there, done that!!!

    Can’t seem to post on CCF…I would be more than glad, happy, ext to join in on the summit!

  11. Frediano says:

    @ Gumby:

    I for sure see what you are saying. But it depends on the nature of their plans for pizza. Maybe it was kind of teenage ‘maybe,’ so Cindy might have just thought that something else came up, and didn’t make a big deal out of it at the time. But, it would seem to be cumulative… she doesn’t answer the phone later, she blows her off for pizza, she’s not at home the next morning to go to school…

    For all we know, Cindy was increasingly worried. But the facts are, she was a kid, and unlike us long after the fact, had no knowledge of what had happened to Holly. So, she’s just a kid with an accumulating string of ??? at that point, but that morning, Sean and his friend discover the truth and it all soon enough is exposed to everybody in the evening papers. I wonder, at school that day — Thursday, before it hit the papers — was the word somehow spreading, after Sean and his friend had discovered Holly? News like that doesn’t necessarily wait for the papers.

    Re: the ‘summit’ thing, Jim suggested it. I wouldn’t mind, but it seems a little like the NIT to the GJ’s NCAA tournament, appropriately, “March Madness.” Basically, frustrated folks, venting their frustration at other frustrated folks, waiting for the GD to finally pull the trigger on the perp/perps. But, it couldn’t hurt anything. It’s true, we’ve been discussing alot of these same scenarios for years now, and are repeating ourselves.

    I’d prefer a public forum like these. Clorox, sunshine and Lysol. Because some of these scanarios must be resonating with someone, someone who is scared to death that there is finally going to be a knock on the door. At some point, that someone has to realize that the only way to make the 30 year pit in the stomach go away is to finally just confess.

    I think the purpose of public forums like this, where people discuss scenarios, is to increase the size of that pit in someone’s stomach. I’m not sure that is served as well by private summits. No ‘secrets.’ This event was filled with too many secrets for too long.

    Anyone can pretty much ask anything they want here. Clarification, criticism, separation of what should be verifiable facts from conjecture, alternative explanations to connect the dots with alternative conjecture…

    Unfortunately, alot of that conjecture is of no use to the GJ. They can’t use ‘conjecture’ to connect any dots, except under a special set of circumstances, those being, if there are multiple perps/principals in aconspriacy of 30 year silence, and they can finally be split apart and played off one against the other, then the truth is finally going to come out, and somebody will finally fry for this murder.

    As in, two twenty something guys already in the house when Holly came home, and a twenty something girl at the door. Or, something like that. Pure conjecture, more or less.

  12. Frediano says:

    @ Gumby:

    Also, from Holly’s point of view, doesn’t it matter who was at the door? Suppose it is someone that Holly absolutely knows that Cindy doesn’t know, or would have any interest in at all. As an example: “My father’s executive secretary from LoneStar, where he works, and who once babysat for me, who once even house sat for us, is at the door. I have no idea why, but she is someone I know and trust and who you’ve never met before in your life, so I just have to go take care of something…” I can’t imagine, under those conjectured circumstances, that teenage conversation. So that is one example of why Holly may not have taken the time to explain to Cindy who was at the door. Another is, something similar, like an entirely different circle of friends/acquaintances that Cindy has nothing at all to do with. But, the example above is exactly that.

  13. Gumby says:

    @ Frediano: The main reason I wouldn’t mind a summit thing, is I feel there are many details and names I am not aware of through this and other forums. Not there are secrets, only that I am fairly new on the scene.

  14. Frediano says:

    @ Gumby:

    There are no better accessible sources than Starkrial and Jim, on all of the scenarios. They’ve been following this case for years, long before I posted on A&E a couple years ago. One or both of them should write a book on this, when it is finally solved. Come to think of it, those two should get together and write a ‘cast of characters’ on each of the scenarios!

    My knowledge is limited to the “B” scenario, period. I didn’t know any of Holly’s friends or neighbors at all. But by now, after years of talking back and forth, Starkrial and Jim know as much about the “B” scenario as I do.

    My suggestion is, there should really be two summits, because the ‘Holly’s friends’ scenarios and the ‘twenty-somethings’ “B” scenario, I think, are by their nature totally unrelated. So, it would be difficult to maintain any focus at a single ‘summit.’ The principals in each would likely(IMO)have no memories of each other, did not overlap. People tend to ‘bunch up’ by age, you know? But, who knows? Maybe they do overlap. It’s hard to rule anything out based on what is known.

  15. Frediano says:

    The following two items were publicly discussed on the CCF website, almost two years ago:

    Excerpt 1:

    “Yes, Three Mile Island nuke plant was considered to blow any minute. My roomate (who by the way brought “B” to our house several times) and I had packed a car and were planning on taking off to Florida the minute it blew. We calculated that we’d have about an hour head start of the radiation storm cloud given the air current wind speed at the time, so yes, people were a little uptight to say the least, and it might have figured in a little to the suspect.
    and yes, I know that this post is supposed to be about Holly but we all need to remember that this murder was NOT planned, and it was not so much about Holly, other than her getting in the way.”

    Amazing final comment above, in that context…

    Excerpt 2: Same person.

    “There are some other very nice sections of town other than Holly’s neighborhood. I had a High School friend who later shared a cottage with me right off a what is called the Main Street extension section of town. It leads out from downtown Main street out to the north end of Bethlehem 2 blocks away from Holly’s area of town. My roomate, I’ll call him Richard (not real first name) was a very interesting guy. The last time I saw him he was driving down the street in what was either a Ferrari or a Maseratti, (not sure which) and when I first knew him he was driving a Corvette and a Jaguar XKE. He was a pretty big party guy. (I couldn’t keep up) and I was told by many girls quite good looking. He had some other features as well that perhaps I can go into soon. Anyway, Richard and I traveled with a same group of friends and one night he brought home this certain young lady who’s name I had heard from some other friends. She was cute, spunky, and outgoing and when I woke up the next morning she was gone, which was like a lot of girls he brought home.”

    Statements made by someone who once lived at 23 West Dewberry.

    Who also, on that same CCF site, after being baited, blurted out this:

    “I can tell you weren’t too happy with me showing up at your house 30 years ago telling your wife I suspect her friend to be a murderer, and of course I was the nut job, until “B” had her breakdown and then you thought maybe there might be something wrong with her. And you keep thinking it was her and some other low life’s, well, listen genius “B” would never share her goods, with me or anyone else. So you can keep guessing all you want or you could check out my theory and know. But I also know guys like you and you will insist I am wrong simply because you didn’t figure it out first. Well guess what genius? If the DA does solve this case I will be resolved and if he doesn’t several years from now it will be a cold case again and I’ll get to see the case file, which will also resolve me, so either way I have nothing to lose except you off my back.”

    Nothing to see here, folks, just two old friends catching up on old times.

    Back then, in 1980, this nut is complaining that the BPD can’t be trusted, that they didn’t believe him and his vast files. And yet, back then, all he wanted to know from us was two things: 1] What had “B” told us, and 2] Could we tell him how to find any more of ‘B”s acquaintances?

    Who was his flashy roomate with the expensive cars at 23 West Dewberry Ave? Bethlehem twenty-something rich kid, or late 70′s showy drug dealer?

    If he was a late 70′s showy drug dealer, then the folks who are paid to notice such things would have noticed Mr. Showy.

    Was there a BPD file on this guy? Was he a drug informant? Or was he a Bethlehem twenty-something rich kid?

    Or did nutjob make him up?

    Toothpaste is out of that tube.

    I’m asking this publicly, in a public forum, because I don’t want to end up dead over speculation about things said publicly on the CCF site, if it turns out all this giving it the old college try is about covering up an embarrassing cover up.

    Leaving no stone unturned to solve this cold case? Really?

    And, after over two years of total non-interest in the “B” scenario, it would really stink on ice to suddenly be asked for background after making this open speculation.

    I have no idea, but if that speculation is right, then who hasn’t figured it out by now, that the cover up is always worse than the crime?

  16. Gumby says:

    @ Frediano: who is “he” talking to???

  17. Gumby says:

    “I believe there was a Silver Corvette, and maybe a dark colored Jag, but I don’t believe I remember seeing any of the Italian rides.”

    “I think that the Vette was owned by a male senior (when we were in the 10th grade). I’m not sure, but I think the Jag was a “Daddy’s car”. I’m not sure about what time frame I remember the Jag from, but if I had to guess, I’d say it was from our 11th, or 12th grade years. Most of the cool cars back then were all those muscle cars with the gas guzzlin’ monster motors that all the kids were burnin’ rubber with in the parking lot. Well… atleast there was always lots of smoke coming from inside, and outside of them… LOL.” …answered by a classmate of mine.

  18. Frediano says:

    Gumby wrote:

    @ Frediano: who is “he” talking to???

    My first reaction was ‘the dark voices inside his head.’

    But, that’s not what you mean. In the first two excerpts, he’s addressing the forum in general. (We called these the ‘Hannibal Lecter’ lecture days. It was bizarre beyond belief.)

    The last excerpt, he is addressing me, posting there as I63_I84, after I’d been baiting him to talk. You, or anyone interested in this case, really needs to carefully read that thread over at CCF. It’s long: 46 pages worth. Here: http://www.crimecasefiles.com/forum/cold-cases/8230-holly-branagans-murder-remains-unsolved.html

    My very first post there: “Yes, you sound exactly like the P.I. that visited us in Ackermanville.” After he had gone on and on with his Hannibal Lecter ‘What is it we covet?” and other complete nonsense, and I was pretty sure it was him. He showed up claiming to be a investigator from a made-up pinetoptrail HOA, jonesing after reward. Totally bogus, that domain was point-and-click established on May 7, 2009, just to be his sock puppet. He tried to lure Starkrial to a murky meeting at Illicks Mill back then, claimed that she knew too much…ask her about that. Ask her about nutjobs running up to her house at night and pounding on the door, back when this was going on, before she called the cops. Same guy who was beating the bushes in 1980.

    Same guy who was stalking “B” in 1980-1981, after the murder. Because “B” did it? Or because he knew that she knew that he did it? Because he later claimed to have made a deal with her for her to shut up. (For her to shut up? About the murder he claims she did? She needs to be encouraged to do that?)

    Why I63_I84? It is totally meaningless gibberish, two interstates picked at random, off of a map. Staunton, VA. Means absolutely nothing.

    Just like, why ‘Gumby?’

    ‘Frediano?’ Town in Italy. But, I’ve separately identified myself to the BPD, in writing, back in January 2009, including who I post as.

    A few people here know my real name. But Mr. fake PI, who was beating the bushes 30 years ago, and hunting down dozens of “B”s acquaintances, lost his vast water stained files, and has forgotten my name. He tried to get Jim to give him my phone number, and also tried through Jim to have me call him directly, for his ‘investigation’ I guess.

    I will gladly talk to him — in front of the BPD, him and I together. But no more murky fake PI nutters freelancing it. I did that once, 30 years ago. Never again. No, this time I’ve done my 30 years of homework. I have my own questions. For him.

  19. Gumby says:

    @ Frediano:

    Do you have a REAL name for him?

    BTW, Gumby is a “kid thing”.

  20. Frediano says:

    Gumby wrote:

    @ Frediano: Do you have a REAL name for him?BTW, Gumby is a “kid thing”.

    Nothing wrong with Gumby as a handle. It’s also an Eddie Murphy thing. (“I’m Gumby, G***ammit!”)

    By ‘him,’ do you mean the person posting as RickRight on CCF, the murky fake PI? Yes, as does the BPD, and has for 30 years. He was actively throwing “B” under the bus back then, the BPD know exactly who he is. (He also complained, even back in 1980, that the BPD didn’t believe him, and they ‘couldn’t be trusted.’) I and several others here have also made sure that the BPD are aware of the statements he’s made recently relating to this case. But, we’ve never used his real name in a public forum. Just his initials: JH. If you talk privately to some of the people here via email or phone, they will probably tell you his name, current and former address, even HS yearbook picture. But, just not on a public forum, usually.

    Liberty ’69, currently living with/married to Liberty ’78, someone a year older than Holly would be. I wonder how those two got together? This is apparently a totally appropriate topic of conversation. He once suggested that we look up my ex wife, (who I haven’t talked to since 1983.) But when he brought that up, he didn’t mean Liberty ’78, and was a little upset about that topic. When he suggested this, was one of the times I directly contacted the BPD. (I gave them sufficient information that they could contact her, if they wanted– no reason for her not to want to , “B” was a friend, we both testified at the commitment hearing) — but I also forwarded other info, as well, at the same time. I also — this was difficult — contacted her current husband privately, warned him that this fake PI from 1980 had resurfaced, like pond scum, and gave him all the headsup I had on him, because he had sort of publicly threatened to go look up my ex, his current wife. Hadn’t talked to him since 1983, either. But, he sounded grateful for the headsup. No more sneaky randoms. like back in 1980, when nobody had the Lysol out, waiting for him.

    What were the Liberty/Freedom rivalries like back then? Pretty mild? Mostly? Liberty ’78 was a noticeably sore subject on CCF. It triggered all kinds of low mumbled threats, including weapons in 8 track equipped shagmobiles. I couldn’t make this stuff up.

  21. DADOCTOR says:

    Good to see more discussion about this case, the way to Defrost Cold Cases is to create open discussion. Unfortunately, there are people out there who don’t know what they are talking about and on the other hand there are people that know what did happen!

    The problem with this medium of discussion is that it brings out the worst in people, there are some idiots that want to talk crap who have no idea. Sometimes it is hard to determine who is sincere, I know Jim Friedman is, and he is someone I welcome to post on CCF.

    There are others who were a great help (and they know who they are). I would love for this case to be solved and I am fairly sure that one of the members of Crime Case Files knows enough information to do this.

    There was one other thing that I did not mention on CCF, and that was because I have access to information of the IP addresses and location of people who have viewed the Holly Branagan discussion. I am sure that one of those, is the details of the person who is responsible or knows the person responsible.

    Good work in opening this discussion about the case and hope that it leads to some outcome for the family of Holly.

    Your link has been added to the CCF thread

  22. Frediano says:

    Gumby wrote:

    “I believe there was a Silver Corvette, and maybe a dark colored Jag, but I don’t believe I remember seeing any of the Italian rides.” “I think that the Vette was owned by a male senior (when we were in the 10th grade). I’m not sure, but I think the Jag was a “Daddy’s car”.

    I’m not sure about what time frame I remember the Jag from, but if I had to guess, I’d say it was from our 11th, or 12th grade years. Most of the cool cars back then were all those muscle cars with the gas guzzlin’ monster motors that all the kids were burnin’ rubber with in the parking lot. Well… at least there was always lots of smoke coming from inside, and outside of them… LOL.” …answered by a classmate of mine.

    Those are pretty good, vivid memories. But to be clear, you are talking about HS students, like around Holly’s age, give or take? Because the pair at 23 West Dewberry, around this same time, would have been about ten years older. Not HS students…

    So, what about classmates memories of ‘older’ types with hoody cars? Like at Illicks Mill? Or anywhere in Bethlehem?

  23. Frediano says:

    @ DADOCTOR:

    Years ago, as I thought about these events, I wondered about that murky PI from 1980. He claimed to be a registered PI and an ex-Hellertown police detective. He was no such thing. He complained that the BPD didn’t believe him and his vast files. He said they couldn’t be trusted. He had murky accusations about “B” that sounded nothing at all like the girl we knew for 6 years. He claimed that he’d quit his job, and was pursuing this case full time.

    But, all he wanted to see was, our reaction to his murky accusations about “B” being involved in the murder. (I wonder, what would have happened had we reacted wrong?) We thought he was nuts, period. He wanted to know if/what “B” had said to us–about what she knew. And when we finally lost our patience with him and were getting ready to throw him out the door, he rapidly switched to asking us if we could tell him how to find any more of “B”s acquaintances. When he left, my wife said “Who was that creepy little weasel?”

    Yes “B” had a psych incident, and a commitment hearing. You know what was wrong with her? She was being stalked by this psycho, threatening her to keep quiet about what she knew. That’s was what was wrong with her.

    I long ago lost the card he handed to me that day. I was wondering, “How do I get that murky PI to ever expose himself again, and identify himself?” It was much easier than I imagined, because of the efforts of Jim keeping this case alive, and folks like you maintaining that forum at CCF and Vidocq here at DCC keeping this case in the public’s eye.

    Thank you. No more murky fake PIs in the shadows. Full sunlight today. Totally weighed and measured, and coming up way short.

  24. Frediano says:

    I meant to say, “Jim and Starkrial” for keeping this case alive.

    I for sure didn’t mean to leave out the Energizer Bunny.

  25. DADOCTOR says:

    Yes, she was one of the main people I was talking about when I said (you know who you are). She has done some great work on the case.

    Thanks!

  26. grewupthereinBethlehem says:

    @ DADOCTOR:
    I had no idea that this case was still being discussed. A friend and I Googled “Holly Branigan” and found this discuss. How wonderful it is that Holly hasn’t been forgotten.

  27. Vidocq says:

    Hi there,

    do you have any memories that can help us? Any pictures from Holly and her classmates?

  28. starkrial says:

    @ grewupthereinBethlehem:

    Hi grew up there!

    We have been blogging about Holly’s murder for quite some time, glad you found this site.

    If you would like we have a Facebook page tribute, a memorial page and a site with all of the original articles posted.

    You can contact me at starkrial@yahoo.com if you’s like.

    These sites are the best.

    After 32 years let’s hope we can gain some ground.

    I have some great photos available that I will be posting soon.

    Thanks for commenting.

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